Where do you fall on the hierarchy of tactical shooters?
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Where do you fall on the hierarchy of tactical shooters?
A thought provoking article:
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_trai ... index.html
"Everyone with a concealed carry permit would like to believe they're ready should they ever have to use their gun in self-defense. ... Can we set up a system to estimate, all else being equal, just how prepared we might be to defend ourselves should we ever wind up in a gunfight? I think so, and I call the resulting system the Hierarchy of Tactical Shooters. It breaks down into five levels, and from lowest to highest they are as follows."
"Level 1: Shooters Who Don't Shoot" ...
"Level 2: Shooters Who Practice On Standard Ranges" ...
"Level 3: Shooters Who Attend Training Classes" ...
"Level 4: Match Shooters" ...
"Level 5: Shooters Who've Been In Gunfights" ...
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_trai ... index.html
"Everyone with a concealed carry permit would like to believe they're ready should they ever have to use their gun in self-defense. ... Can we set up a system to estimate, all else being equal, just how prepared we might be to defend ourselves should we ever wind up in a gunfight? I think so, and I call the resulting system the Hierarchy of Tactical Shooters. It breaks down into five levels, and from lowest to highest they are as follows."
"Level 1: Shooters Who Don't Shoot" ...
"Level 2: Shooters Who Practice On Standard Ranges" ...
"Level 3: Shooters Who Attend Training Classes" ...
"Level 4: Match Shooters" ...
"Level 5: Shooters Who've Been In Gunfights" ...
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Re: Where do you fall on the hierarchy of tactical shooters?
I've seen a few match shooters fall apart in tactical classes. I have been told of guys who attend lots of classes not doing so well at matches.Paladin wrote:A thought provoking article:
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_trai ... index.html
"Everyone with a concealed carry permit would like to believe they're ready should they ever have to use their gun in self-defense. ... Can we set up a system to estimate, all else being equal, just how prepared we might be to defend ourselves should we ever wind up in a gunfight? I think so, and I call the resulting system the Hierarchy of Tactical Shooters. It breaks down into five levels, and from lowest to highest they are as follows."
"Level 1: Shooters Who Don't Shoot" ...
"Level 2: Shooters Who Practice On Standard Ranges" ...
"Level 3: Shooters Who Attend Training Classes" ...
"Level 4: Match Shooters" ...
"Level 5: Shooters Who've Been In Gunfights" ...
That said, call me a 3a. I have had to draw my weapon and been in deadly force situations where tactics and plain luck kept me from having to shoot.
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Mojo, I would doubt anyone would call you anything else but a 5, maybe a six because there was an entire country gunning for you!....I would definitely count that!!! Thanks for what you did over there, having studed the war a great deal I really want to say that you guys are under appreciated heroes!
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If we are honest w/ ourselves, we can all remember when we were at level 1. Nothing to be ashamed of Tx. Keep training.
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I am somewhere trapped between a 2 and 3! I am hungry to learn new skills and am in the process of doing what I must to learn from people who know a bit more about "real world" shooting than I do.
I have stood in front of a target at a regular shooting range since I was about five and still find a greal deal of relaxation in it....but it is time for me to learn new skills. I do have some formal training, but realize that I have a LONG way to go before turning that training into real world skill.
I am grateful to everyone here for conditioning me to ask myself questions about how I would handle myself in certain situations. A great deal of the training occurs in our heads and not at the range.
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I have stood in front of a target at a regular shooting range since I was about five and still find a greal deal of relaxation in it....but it is time for me to learn new skills. I do have some formal training, but realize that I have a LONG way to go before turning that training into real world skill.
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God Bless you for your service.300shooter wrote:I guess I am a 5 as I am Medically retired LEO, the shooting got me retired at the age of 29 with me taking 2 rounds in the chest.
so I guess I am a 5
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I believe at one time I was probably up close to the 5. I am a lot like TX, I have drawn my weapon many of times as a LEO and God had another plan. I have been shot at, never hit, and never had to pull the trigger. I have only had to draw my weapon one time as a CHL and once again never had to pull the trigger. I would say now, because of health and I have not been to any type of class in 2 years. Sure do not want to think of myself more highly than I ought, but I would say about a 2.5.
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