Louis Farrakhan writes about Joe Horn

[lawrnk]

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish ... 4269.shtml

John White should have been respected as a model American citizen, husband, father and upstanding member of his community. He did all the right things, worked hard, raised himself up by his bootstraps and sought to give his family a decent home in a decent neighborhood.




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How much more of this must Black America stand? How long must a people suffer a long train of abuses and usurpations? At what point in this course of human events will it become necessary for one people, Black people, to dissolve the bonds that connect them to their former slave masters and embrace their full God-given humanity?
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He rose at 3:30 a.m. to go to work as a construction supervisor in New York, but his appearance would make you think of a college professor, not someone in the construction industry. His American Dream became a nightmare when five drunken White teens showed up at his Long Island home one late night, threatening his son, vowing to rape his wife and refusing to leave the family alone.

Mr. White did the American thing; he exercised the right to protect his home, his life and his loved ones. He thought just showing a gun would end his trouble with the White mob. But a sudden move by an intoxicated 17-year-old, who wasn’t old enough to drink in the first place, apparently turned a confrontation into a tragedy. Mr. White, 54, says young Daniel Cicciaro lunged for the gun and it went off. The single shot killed the White youth, which resulted in the arrest and conviction of the 54-year-old Black man for manslaughter in the second degree.

The jury initially deadlocked on a verdict, but with Christmas days away and pressure from a judge, it took just 40 minutes for a deadlocked jury to become a jury with a unanimous guilty verdict. Now two White jurors are lamenting their decisions, saying pressure from the judge and fellow jurors pushed them into doing the wrong thing.

Where was justice?

Joe Horn, a White man from Pasadena, Texas, shot and killed two Latino immigrants who were allegedly breaking into a neighbor’s home. Mr. Horn was on the phone with a 911 dispatcher, and promised to shoot the alleged burglars, who were not on his property. The dispatcher told Mr. Horn not to go outside and that an unmarked police vehicle was present. “Here it goes buddy, you hear the shotgun clicking and I am going,� says Mr. Horn, according to a transcript of the 911 call. A shotgun is heard being cocked and Mr. Horn is heard outside. “Boom! You’re dead,� he shouts. A loud bang is heard. Since the November shooting, Mr. Horn has not been charged with a crime, or even arrested.

“Where does the line form to pin a medal on Joe Horn? I want to get in line,� wrote one letter to a newspaper cited in a media report. Another letter read, “Let’s get rid of the police force and just hire Joe Horn!� The shooting came shortly after a recently passed Texas law that expanded the right to use deadly force. The law allows the use of deadly force to protect ones property or to stop night time arson, burglary, robbery, theft or criminal mischief. But the author of the bill, a Republican, has said the bill was intended to allow people to protect themselves, their families and property—not a neighbor’s home.

A medal for Joe Horn, who disobeyed a 911 dispatcher’s instruction to remain in his home and was told an unmarked police car was nearby, and a possible five to 15-year jail sentence for John White standing in his driveway trying to protect his home and family. And, another potential eight years for firing an unlicensed weapon.

No justice for a man who expresses sadness at the senseless loss of a young life and who calls someone who threatened to assault him and rape his wife “a child of God.�

No justice for the Black man.

No justice for a man who heard tales of KKK night riders and lynchings from his grandfather. No justice for a man whose people have suffered domestic terrorism from the time their feet set foot on American soil.

No justice for a man whose people have been hung from trees, drowned in lakes and rivers, beaten, abused, bombed, burned, and tortured.

No justice for the children of slaves who have suffered untold cruelty at the hands of their slave masters and their slave masters’ children. No justice for a people who have been failed by the federal government, state government and local government.

How much more of this must Black America stand? How long must a people suffer a long train of abuses and usurpations? At what point in this course of human events will it become necessary for one people, Black people, to dissolve the bonds that connect them to their former slave masters and embrace their full God-given humanity?

The time is now. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan asked this question on October 16 during his address marking the 12th anniversary of the Million Man March. He asked if it was better to continue to suffer under a people that have never shown love for us or to strike out on our own with a God who loves us dearly.

Every time Black America tries to access the rights that Whites say we have, such as the right to self defense, we find that we have no rights. The constitution and the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness never seem to be accorded to us.

Our so-called citizenship is an empty promise devoid of the respect and security that true citizenship confers on its holder.

We cannot continue to suffer like this; it is time to leave our former masters and create a new reality, a reality that will offer freedom, justice and equality for all who embrace it.

It’s time to separate.

Our Native American brothers of the Lakota Nation recently declared their intention to revoke all treaties with the U.S. government, treaties that have not been respected and promises that have not been kept. They have also had enough of the suffering, death and deprivation under the hands of White America.

Leaving the slave master may be a fearful thing for a 21st century, high-tech slave, still dependent on his master. But for free thinking Black men and women, it is a viable solution to a 400-year-old problem. We deserve to be free, we just need to be strong enough to embrace our freedom.

[srothstein]

As a general rule, I think that anything coming out of Louis Farakkhan is wrong. I just don't trust or agree with him. But I guess the saying about even a blind pig finding an acorn once in a while holds true for him too.

There is a serious problem with the difference between the two cases he mentioned. There was a serious miscarriage of justice in the Long Island case, based on what I have read of the case in the papers (not a reliable source).

Of course, a much larger part of the problem is the state each occurred in than the race of any of the participants in the cases. So he is still lying about things, but he doe have a little nugget of truth in there about jsutice.

[LarryH]

I wonder where LF is proposing to "separate" to. It's not parallel to the thought of several states seceding from the Union, for example. Does he want to go back to Africa? I think not. Does he want all the whites to leave (insert states names here) and cede them to any black who wants to relocate? That wouldn't solve anything, either.

Just another batch of LF rhetoric, IMHO. Makes him feel like a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem.

[boomerang]

No justice for the Black man.

I didn't realize Bernie Goetz was a Black man.

[Venus Pax]

I think what Mr. Farrakan fails to realize is that the two different outcomes had so much more to do with the location of the DF than ethnicity/race.

[lawrnk]

bloomberg.com weighs in

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... refer=home

[aardwolf]

When is q10 going to protest in front of John White's house?

[locknload]

Wait one little minute here .......

What does the plight of black slaves (though I do agree that some of them were treated horribly and feel sorry for them) ... what in the world does that have to do with a white man shooting two illegal aliens, who were criminals to begin with just by the fact that they came here illegally, and were in the process of committing a crime?

LF's self-righteous meddling just makes my brain itch! Also, let us not forget that he is a Muslim ... Nation of Islam ... though it's a perversion of the religion, it is still anti-American, anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, anti-white ... and clearly in the business of muddying any waters that he can stir up to turn public opinion against white folks. Isn't that a hate crime?

That said, it makes me ashamed of the folks, of any color, who fall for his red herring ruses. In fact, what in the world does color of skin have to do with anything, here? Could Joe have even seen what color those folks were in the dark? Would they have refrained from stealing, if they were white, legal citizens? Would Joe have refused to shoot them, if they were white? I think the answer to all those questions would be a resounding, "NO! No way!" All races and all colors steal. Legal and illegal citizens steal. However, not all people from all races, colors and legal or illegal citizens steal.

The fact is that unknown persons had broken into a neighbor's house and could have posed a serious, unknown, violent threat to them and their property. No one can expect Joe to be a mind reader of the intents or the level of being armed of the perps. He could not see what they were doing within those walls. The very fact that they would invade a home by breaking a window at night is evidence enough that they present a danger to the residents, Joe, the neighbors, or anyone, who might have happened along that street at that time. Joe is a hero. The Police, if they were there or not, had not intervened, so someone needed to step up to the plate and help save someone. That is the proper situation that should be considered, here. Race, color, and legal status is just a divergence to sway public opinion against Joe, so that he doesn't get a fair trial and the perps, because of pity, get the benefit of the doubt. How absurd!!

BTW - Islam teaches its subjects about our system of justice and how to manipulate us. It's commanded of them by the Quran, in order to defeat us. They know us and our system of justice and its loopholes better than we do.

IMHO, the best way for us to deal with LF is to treat him like the nut case that he is and to laugh him out of the place!

[Dragonfighter]

BTW - Islam teaches its subjects about our system of justice and how to manipulate us. It's commanded of them by the Quran, in order to defeat us. They know us and our system of justice and its loopholes better than we do.

Whoah mule. Though frought with contradiction and calls for conquest, even dessimation of infidels (Christians, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists et al), neither the Q' Ran nor the Hadith have anything about using the manipulation of the native legal system as a means unto an end. That is not to say that the radical practitioners of Islam have not become very adept at it, nor does it deny that they gladly pass this skill set on to their disciples.

[locknload]

How about the command to lie and manipulate in order to defeat the infidel? US Mullahs have interpreted that to mean, as I described, not I, so that's where that comes from. Sorry for any confusion.

[Dragonfighter]

The closest in the Q'Ran is wherein a judgement or calamity from Allah was called a lie...presumably in error {The Inevitable 69.4, The Covered One 74.6 and maybe one or two others.}

As to the Hadith and Sunnah texts... Sahih Bukari allows for the expiation of an oath if you find "...that which is better..." and if by keeping the oath one commits a "greater" sin of harming his family, that is indeed a lie (In reality God would rather you not make an oath than make one and then adulterate it). It goes on and on like this. The Hadith (traditions and sayings) in its various volumes, sets up a very convoluted system of doctrines. In it you will find your references to virgins awaiting martyrs, Jihad and forgiveness for deception in trade and in the expulsion of infidels. But as self contradictory as these writings are, a "command" to lie is (supposedly) antithesis of Q'Ran.

Added in edit to answer loaknload's edit: <Gilda Radner Voice> Well, that's different isn't it....never mind.</Gilda Radner Voice>