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Seamus,

Not meaning to hi-jack this thread, but I've been wondering when Galveston will try the same thing with our Range?

I thought as soon as they built that Park/ Soccer Field across the road that the Soccer moms would freak out the first time they heard gunshots.... :mrgreen:
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rbraughn wrote:Not meaning to hi-jack this thread, but I've been wondering when Galveston will try the same thing with our Range?
It seems in Galveston they can think about only one thing at a time, and the Marquette development has them tied in knots.

I don't doubt that sooner or later the attempt will be made, and if we can't stuff the city council chamber with protesters, we deserve it (the club has over 1,000 members).

For those who don't know, the Galveston Rifle and Pistol Club is on a very desirable parcel of land with a lake view.

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Thanks, WildBill and others. I'll see you the 8th.

seamus and rbraughn, if we lose in LC, it will set a precedent for making it easier to "take" GALV. If you will support us in LC, I'll show up for GALV. Did you know that they now have Commissioner's Court on TV? One time Yarbrough got so angry that he literally came across the table at Cheryl Johnson, because she was telling the truth, and he couldn't stand it, and it was getting recorded on TV, so there was no way that he could lie about it! It gets quite entertaining and is highly enlightening. Shows Yarbrough and cronies up for the GOB's that they are. What a hoot! Grab the chips and beer, and get ready for a show! :cheers2:
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G-Ma wrote:seamus and rbraughn, if we lose in LC, it will set a precedent for making it easier to "take" GALV.
Good point. I'm sorry I can't be there, because there's an important meeting of the Galveston Rifle and Pistol Club at exactly the same time (6 p.m. on the 8th).

I urge anyone who can attend the League City council meeting to do so. City councils find standing-room-only meetings very intimidating. Also write letters to the editor of the Galveston County Daily News (letters@galvnews.com).

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G-Ma,

Sorry I work 2nd shift 1430-2230, so I wouldnt be able to attend. Is there an on-line or printed petition anywhere?

I didn't know they showed commissioners court on TV.....I do watch the Galveston City Council meeting on Public access channel......I wish I could have seen Yarbrough trying to get across the table though ;-)
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They will back off for a while now, I guess. But once they get their mind made up on something they will push long and hard for it.

I am dissappointed in a lot of the moves Shults has made but this one is probably near the top of the list.

We need leadership in League City that will focus on streets, sewer pipes, water pipes, drainage etc etc. I guess it's just not 'sexy' enough for them.

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Hope you can make it, Chris, and I hope you will join me in saying something. The harder we hit them, now, the longer it will be before they try to do anything this stupid again, as they will know that we're watching and we are many. Over the whole State, almost 3000 CHL's were issued to 60 year olds. That ought to be the "shot heard round the world," as far as statements go! :fire :bigear:

Used to be that retirement was a time for quiet enjoyment of the fruits of one's labor. Now, we are the one's that are targeted by criminals and the ones, who are getting the most CHL's in the state. Sooooo sad. :mad5
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Who are the developers???

Who asked some city officials to look into getting the range closed???

Follow the money folks...

The City of Manvel had a "developer" recently try the same tactics to run off and make the owners of some bordering semi-rural property, less attractive due to some civil engineering and drainage practices in the planning stages...

It was discovered that a few Manvel city officials got some "perks" in trade for some favorable noises from said officials...

If this is the same developer, I believe some pointed discussion to the City of League City is in order...

I would also watch the actions and statements from the City attorney...His name is Dick, I believe, and he is left of center on the political scale, and is a bit anti gun from what I have heard... ;-)
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A quote from the Galveston Daily News Article in question:
"City Attorney Dick Gregg’s billing records show he participated in a series of meetings about how to “characterize a gun range as a nuisance and ultimately have it removed.�" ... "Involved in the planning were Mayor Jerry Shults, City Administrator Chris Reed, other senior staff members and developer Sam Boyd, who gave $4,000 to Shults’ campaign in August 2005. The records show Gregg billed the city for gun range discussions with the mayor at least seven times and for conversations with Boyd at least five times. For more than a week, The Daily News made phone calls and sent e- mails to Shults asking questions about the range. Shults’ assistant called to say he had “no further comment on any of the issues.�Gregg did not return phone calls asking for comment. Randall, who has owned the Clear Creek Gun Range since 1976, said he thinks Shults is helping homebuilders who’ve been trying to buy his land for years. ... A Nuisance? In a July 31 e-mail, Gregg said that “many perceive the gun range ... to be a nuisance� and said he’d been asked to pursue its removal. What makes the range near FM 1266 and state Highway 96 a problem isn’t clear. Correspondence between Gregg and Boyd shows that the developer’s attorney offered a list of possible issues the city could raise. That e-mail, from Aug. 2, said that, if the range were contaminated with lead, it could be in violation of federal and state environmental laws.In November, that reason was passed along to the city council in a memo from Gregg. It said lead shot had been found in a church parking lot on nearby property. Gregg didn’t answer questions about which church had problems, but New Hope Baptist Church is the nearest church to the range. Pastor Richard Sumner said he hasn’t found lead in the parking lot in five or six years.“We haven’t had any problems in some time,� he said. “They made some modifications, and there’s been nothing since then.�Randall said he built planks of wood over the targets to deflect shots after he learned of problems.Another nearby church, Gloria Dei, bought property near the range but hasn’t built on it yet. Council members Tim Paulissen and Mike Barber, as well as Randall, said that Gregg claimed the church wasn’t going to build on the property because of the gun range.Gloria Dei’s executive director, Vince Parks, said that wasn’t true and the church is in the process of raising money for the new building." ... Randall, who has owned the Clear Creek Gun Range since 1976, said he thinks Shults is helping homebuilders who’ve been trying to buy his land for years. ... City staff didn’t answer the following questions posed by The Daily News:• Why were the city attorney and staff members meeting with a developer about a city business?• Were representatives of this business invited to these meetings?• Is it normal for a developer to be involved in these types of procedures?• Why is the gun range considered a possible public nuisance?•What attempts were made to contact Randall about problems with his business?Instead, city spokeswoman Kristi Wyatt responded to those questions with a statement saying that the property was out of compliance with zoning regulations.The business was registered with the city in 1991, but when zoning was adopted in 1999, the land was zoned office commercial. It was later rezoned for single-family homes in August 2005. Neither of the zoning designations would have allowed a gun range. The city sent a letter to Randall notifying him he could change his zoning without a fee in 2005, but he didn’t ask for a change.Randall said a city staff member told him there would be no problems with the zoning changes when he left for a five-month trip to Alaska in 2005. When he returned, his zoning had changed.But because the business existed before zoning did, it was grandfathered in.The city statement says the property and business appears to have changed hands, which would nullify the grandfather statues.But Randall’s attorney, George Kurisky, said the business has always been owned and operated by Randall.Randall allows an instructor, Al Trug, to teach a course at the range required for people wanting concealed handgun licenses. Trug filed for a business permit for his classes after a city employee told him to, which may have been why the city thought the business changed hands, Kurisky said.“I’ve had eight or 10 instructors use my range over the years,� Randall said. “It’s never been a problem.� But Barber said he thinks the city is trying to find problems with the range. ... “It’s not as if all the sudden at 8 p.m. he serves alcohol and has a strip tease,� (City Councilman, Mike)Barber said. “There’s no change of use. Why the city would say your action isn’t permitted, I don’t know. I think they did that because they’re trying bully him.� ... Randall said developers told him they want the 60-acre lake to use as a detention pond if they build homes. Randall also claims developers said they couldn’t get financing for building the homes with the gun range active.Gregg’s memo said the land is slated for residential development but doesn’t elaborate. About 20 acres of the lake was recently bought by home developer Bob Perry ... ’The issue caused Randall to call on council members for help. After that, Paulissen asked for copies of the city attorney’s bills, which detail seven months of meetings and research that Gregg said was part of “normal, behind-the-scenes efforts.�“What is not normal is political interference in that process,� Gregg’s memo said. “Apparently, the two council members have already decided what they want to do, though it has not yet been on any public agenda.� ... A city contractor e-mailed Reed and former city administrator Mike Clawson in October, documents released through an open records request show. In the e-mail, the contractor said he heard from Clawson that Reed needed help with ammunition cleanup at a gun range.City staff, Gregg and the two councilmen met with Randall last week. After the meeting, Kurisky said it’s still unclear what laws the city thinks the range is violating. He asked that the specific allegations be given to him in writing. ... Barber said it’s not just him and Paulissen who have gotten involved. “The real story is that Sam Boyd has a relationship with (Shults) to make the deal work,� he said. “The mayor got personally involved to investigate ways to shut him [Randall] down.�

Developers already took League City's Airport, now they want its Gun Range. Who's business will be next? Who will next be demonized and run out of town on a rail?

The "Open Meetings Act" states that City Officials cannot legally get together between themselves or with any outside entity and discuss the Citizens' business outside of a public meeting. The penalties are severe, and these City elected and hired employees seem to be in a heap of trouble, if the news article is accurate. We need to give them the opportunity to explain their side of the story, before we go any further with this.

If you'd like to write to City Officials, here are some pertinent addresses:

Galveston Daily News:

Letters to the editor:

angela.taylor@galvnews.com


You can contact League City Mayor and City Council at:


Mayor: Jerry Shults

JShults@leaguecity.com


City Council:

Position 1 - Tad Nelson

TNelson7@houston.rr.com

Position 2 - Mike Barber

mike.barber@leaguecity.com

Position 3 - Thomas Cones

tommy.cones@leaguecity.com

Position 4 - Chris Samuelson

csamuelson@houston.rr.com

Position 5 - Phyllis Sanborn

phyllis.sanborn@leaguecity.com

Position 6 - Tim Paulissen

tim.paulissen@leaguecity.com

Position 7 - Jim Nelson

jim.nelson@leaguecity.com



City Administrator:

Chris Reed

CReed@leaguecity.com



MAP To City Council Meeting on 1/8/2008 at 6 pm:

http://www.ci.league-city.tx.us/index.asp?nid=209


The meeting is held in the Court Room, so don't forget ... DON'T CARRY within the building!

Please, come join us to tell City Council what we need them to do about this. Be nice. Be civil. No bad words. Respect ... I know you all don't need to hear that, as you are men and women of high moral character ... MUST be to obtain a CHL ... ;-) Just have to remind myself! :lol::
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HighVelocity wrote:City employees scheming with developers. That's a new one. :bigmouth
Sounds like our little Boss Hog mayor here in Sienna Plantation/Missouri City. He is in bed with Johnson Development out here. It's sad.
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Let it be known that Bob Perry is a supporter of the 2nd, and one of the primary reasons John "purple heart" Kerry is not in office. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Gun range story a case of shotgun reporting

By Jerry Shults
Special to The Daily News

Published December 29, 2007
Being the mayor of any city is never easy but it seems that, in League City, we make politics into a blood sport — one based on rumor, innuendo and, quite frankly, openly sensational, albeit, inaccurate reporting.

Recently The Galveston County Daily News ran a story that began, “Records show that top city officials spent at least seven months discussing how to shut down a gun range,� and indicated that this was part of a “conspiracy� to help a developer. This entire story was simply hogwash.

What was the basis of this allegation? That, a few years ago, the developer contributed to my campaign.

I state categorically — there has never been and there never will be a quid pro quo for a campaign contribution. Not now, not ever.

These are the facts, for those who are interested.

The city is examining the issue of the gun range only from a zoning perspective.

Ernest Randall approached the city to discuss the possibility of rezoning the property for future use as a mobile-home park. It was during this process that it came to the attention of the city that he may have already lost his grandfather status and may be illegally operating a gun range in a residential zone.

City staff advised Randall and his attorney that they need to produce documentation that will allow the gun range to continue to be grandfathered or request a zoning change to a classification that will permit the gun range.

When the range was built in an unpopulated area, it had all of the necessary permits, licenses and insurances. It operated within the boundaries of all existing laws.

Years later, as the land around the gun range became populated and zoning was instituted, the rules changed.

During a period of time the mayor, city staff and the city attorney met with the range owner and surrounding landowners to evaluate all existing options.

A gun range may have been safe 30 years ago, but growth creates change, whether we acknowledge it or not.

Our goal at the meetings was to see if we could work together to keep the range under existing laws without jeopardizing public safety. That is it — nothing more. Meetings of this substance take place routinely at City Hall — after all, that is what we are there for.

Why are we doing this? We are doing this for one reason and one reason only — public safety. We want to make sure that the gun range can legally and safely stay in business and, at the same time, follow all laws and requirements.

We want to balance the property owner’s rights with the rights of our residents. A populated area may not be the best place for a gun range to be located.

If we did nothing, what would happen? We would still be attacked. Why? What if a child in a new neighborhood next to the range was killed accidentally by a stray bullet?

The Daily News would surely print a series of articles showing that the League City government had ignored a potential safety issue because we had been “bought� by the owner of the gun range and ignored zoning laws.

So what is the story?

The city government, in an open fashion, has been working with Randall to see if the range can continue to operate under existing laws and increasing population density in the area.

That is it — no more and no less.

Then, why is this a story? Maybe it is because a councilman who lives in Victory Lakes and who opposed all commercial development in Victory Lakes now supports a gun range in the middle of someone else’s neighborhood.

I cannot help but wonder if the same level of support would be forthcoming if the gun range were located in a Victory Lakes neighborhood.

I do not know the answer to those questions but I know that I was elected to be a leader and to take heat. I am willing to do that. But I am not willing to be the center of stories and issues that are simply not true.

Jerry Shults is the mayor of League City.
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Letters to the editor published Jan.1:

It’s The Big Guy Crushing The Little Guy — Again

I see Mayor Jerry Shults’ actions in trying to get a small-business man to sell his land to a developer as an assault to the rights of small business and legal gun owners and enthusiasts.

His actions present a serious threat to property ownership and Second Amendment freedoms. It’s the big guy crushing the little guy once again.

The Department of Public Safety list of concealed handgun licenses shows 414 licenses issued in League City in 2007, up from 298 in fiscal 2006 — far above the single digits reported for most other zip codes and highest in the state. Why?

Obtaining a concealed handgun license is expensive, time-consuming and inconvenient. It requires rigorous background checks, fingerprinting and no criminal record. Why would so many residents go to so much trouble?

Could it be that League City has become a Sanctuary City, thanks to elected officials with misplaced loyalties to developers because of their campaign contributions?

The unprecedented issuance of 414 licenses indicates citizens no longer feel safe in League City.

So here’s my question: League City has more gun license holders per capita than any other ZIP code, so wouldn’t we want to keep an established business that allows gun owners to maintain their skills, thus enhancing public safety?

There is power in numbers, and the ZIP code information shows that gun owners have the power in League City.

Wonder if Mayor Shults knows this? Or is he just so arrogant that he doesn’t care?

Shirley Hendrickson
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It’s Time To Put League City Back On Track

I noticed that Mayor Jerry Shults (The Daily News, Dec. 29) failed to answer any of the questions posed by The Daily News.

Why is it that he will only respond in a letter to the editor?

The mayor states the basis of the report was that he received a contribution from (developer) Sam Boyd “a few years ago.� Yet the mayor never states that he has a house and property in central Texas near Mr. Boyd as well. Omission of fact?

When you put all the coincidental deals going on in the city for the developers and contributors — the big picture appears.

The trash contract, the bridge in Glen Cove, the gun range, a new water line ($6.3 million) for Tuscan Lakes as well as $20 million in amenities in the form of a park in front of the subdivision to help sell their homes. The list goes on.

Add the forced resignation of the police chief and the lack of a process in selecting a new one, as well as the selection of a police officer who has no experience as a city administrator and you have the mayor’s city administration.

It’s time to put League City back on track.

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Given Galveston Daily News' past record ... they never saw a Republican they liked or weren't willing to take aim at, even if it meant printing any lie they could conjure up ... and Jerry Shults comments above (assuming he has evidence), I'm more willing to side with Shults at this time, or at least give him the benefit of the doubt. However, I am not satisfied with League City STILL being a Sanctuary City, and citizens in record numbers feeling so unsafe that they must arm themselves. I still would like to see GDN's evidence. Whoever produces the evidence will gain my trust and confidence. So, I think it's time the two sides produced their proof. Neither the newspaper, nor the City, seem willing to address the illegal problem, which I believe is the major issue. If we had a safe city, there wouldn't be quite the need for a gun range. Given the unprecedented issuance of CHL's for the past couple of years, I'm still inclined to believe that citizens aren't feeling too safe in League City. I think that is the issue that still must be addressed, even if this brew-ha-ha boils down to merely a peeing contest between GDN and the Mayor.

As I sit here typing this, I still stumble over the bicycle racks and Port-A-Potty by the Police Station, so that the builders can pick up illegals at a convenient location and to keep the illegals from peeing and pooping on the convenience stores. If Shults were 100% honest, there would be no "conveniences" for the developers at City, thus Taxpayer, expense. So, until League City ceases to be a Sanctuary City, I will choose to believe neither of them, as I cannot see where either are forthcoming by presenting their evidence that proves their position.

I still plan to attend the City Council meeting and ask why the City is still a Sanctuary City, given the vote of "No Confidence" evidenced by the high number of folks getting gun licenses in League City.
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The Mayor didn't address the billing records for the attorney hired by the city, or the allegations that a developer and/or his attorney were at meetings with city officials or its attorney. Those are important allegations he never addressed.

I'm also not impressed by his response dealing with political donations. Real estate developers don't make donations to insignificant mayoral elections unless they have a project in mind. This donation coupled with the meetings gives cause for concern. Add in the fact that a developer has been trying unsuccessfully to buy the property since Houston Gulf Airport closed and the land was developed into a housing addition and my level of suspicion rises.

I agree that the GDN is no friend to Republicans, but it sure sounds like they have the attorneys billing records that raise troublesome questions.

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