BrassMonkey wrote:How would a fully computerized classroom presentation be received? I'm not talking about powerpoint.
Something you instructor types would be interested in? Free of course, I have some time in the evenings lately to woro on something.
This would make it entertaining for students and hopefully give more time for Q&A, you know, good stuff...
We can use powerpoint ad overheads, etc., but we can only use a small percentage of the time on videos and such. Is that what you mean, where the instructor lets the computer do the teaching?
Yes, for all the academic stuff. Animations, sound, video, all of it. Basically the part that people complain about. The reading from the book part. It can even be narrated if someone has the voice for it. I sure don't.
10 hour class
4 hours for material
1 hour for printsd and pics and paperwork
5 hours for questions, scnearios, what if's, so on and so forth
Is this allowed?
BrassMonkey, that funky monkey....
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Springfield TRP
Glock 22
Glock 21
Walther P22
Nope, DPS doesn't allow it. The class must be taught by a real live person. We are allowed to use only a certain percent of the class time for videos or other multimedia. (I don't remember exactly, but I think it is 20%) Don't confuse that with PowerPoint. Talking while using PowerPoint is still "live instruction".
I use a one hour video. I have two different ones. The makeup of the class determines which one they see. That gives them a chance to get a break from me for an hour, gives me a chance to get off my feet for an hour, and is usually just enough time for me to complete the TR-100s and affidavits.
I do appreciate your offer, though. I am always looking for ways to make the class more interesting, more engaging, more entertaining while still remaining within DPS guidelines.
Well fine, I will take my computer and cat-like reflexes home then... lol
llwatson wrote:Nope, DPS doesn't allow it. The class must be taught by a real live person. We are allowed to use only a certain percent of the class time for videos or other multimedia. (I don't remember exactly, but I think it is 20%) Don't confuse that with PowerPoint. Talking while using PowerPoint is still "live instruction".
I use a one hour video. I have two different ones. The makeup of the class determines which one they see. That gives them a chance to get a break from me for an hour, gives me a chance to get off my feet for an hour, and is usually just enough time for me to complete the TR-100s and affidavits.
I do appreciate your offer, though. I am always looking for ways to make the class more interesting, more engaging, more entertaining while still remaining within DPS guidelines.
BrassMonkey, that funky monkey....
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Springfield TRP
Glock 22
Glock 21
Walther P22
Stupid wrote:
In my stupid opinion, a CHL class that does not include gun safety and how to handle handguns is totally useless.
Firearms storage and safety, as well as marksmanship and range safety are required segments of instruction
I can vouch for that. I took my class out in Terrell with ken and he was very adamant about gun safety. Especially when there would kids in the house with guns. He even gave out free child locks to anyone who wanted them. I think you might have just had a bad class or fell asleep.
I would say he didn't go over the material, but it was not emphasized. He spent about 10-15 minutes about the safety, which I think it should be 1 hour.
No part of the class was about ensuring each applicant know how to handle at least his/her gun properly, which is quite disturbing to me.
Wildscar wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:
Stupid wrote:
In my stupid opinion, a CHL class that does not include gun safety and how to handle handguns is totally useless.
Firearms storage and safety, as well as marksmanship and range safety are required segments of instruction
I think you might have just had a bad class or fell asleep.
I wouldn't recommend anybody who wants to learn something to go to this class. Probably only people who are stupid like me and who think he/she knows everything.
I would also recommend Ayoob's "In the gravest extreme" as a recommend reading. Some CHLs come out thinking they can do shoot anything that they don't like - well, those idiots wouldn't read the book anything, i guess.
Stupid wrote:No part of the class was about ensuring each applicant know how to handle at least his/her gun properly, which is quite disturbing to me.
I think it's fair to expect students to know how to shoot and how to handle their gun properly before they come to the CHL class. A class with half a dozen students could have a 1911, a Glock, a SIG, a Taurus 85, a Ruger Blackhawk, and a HK P7 with the heel release. I don't think an instructor should have to spend individual time with each student explaining how their gun works. They chose their gun and they should know how to use it before they show up in a CHL class.
I was disappointed in the CHL class I took a couple of weeks ago because they spent so much time on remedial training and not enough time on the things I think a CHL class should focus on, like gun laws, use of force, nonviolent dispute resolution, and other things beyond the basics. There are already classes like FIRST STEPS if someone needs to get up to speed before taking the CHL class.
In my class, it was the instructor. I took my CHL in carters country in Spring. The teacher spent most of the class flirting with the few women in the class, coddling them, teasing them, and dang near pulling their pigtails for 10 hours!! I swear I felt like I was in Junior High. I qualified with America's worst ever handgun, a Sigma. I sure don't miss that S&W junk.
Sorry for the long post, but I felt that these warranted a post. My class was full of intelligent individuals... or, or maybe less than intelligent ones. I've got a couple stories for y'all:
We'll call the first guy Marty (because that's what he looked like to me). We are out on the firing range, and Marty is very unfamiliar with his weapon. That scares me into thinking that he's probably carrying now, but whatever, I just hope I never see him. I might have to shoot him for fear of my life if he has that pistol on him. Anyways, Marty is on the range loading the ammo into his magazine, but for some reason, the ammo won't stay in! Everytime he puts a bullet in, it pops out. Finally he gets frustrated, and calls the instructor. The instructor comes over and tells him to show him, and sure enough the bullet pops out of the mag. After looking at Marty for a second, the instructor leans in and says in a hushed voice, "You're putting the bullets in BACKWARDS." Upon hearing this, I snarf half of the bottle of water up my nose.
Well, we commence shooting, and I proceed to make a gigantic hole where the X used to be on my target. I decided that they may start counting my shots as missed because at this point, the hole is so big that you can see that I'm hitting paper anymore. We scoot back to 7 yds, and start popping away. Our targets were on turning mechanisms. The target was on a wooden post, about 3 feet tall, with the bottom foot being covered by a steel shield that guards the turning mechanism. We're shooting along, and all of the sudden, *CLANG!* The lady two stations down from me (a REQUAL, no less) shot the base of the target with her carry weapon! AT 7 YARDS! I was shocked, a second time. At this point, the instructor used the situation to explain the merits of practicing with the weapons that we were soon to be carrying.
FINALLY, we'll call this last guy Bernie, we get into our final instruction phase, and start discussing different scenarios and whatnot. A few of the people in there posed some very good scenarios, but, leave it to Marty and Bernie to lighten the mood. Bernie's was this: If I'm on a motorcycle, and there's some dude in a truck, and he's getting a little disrespectful to me, can I just like, you know, show him my piece? The instructor looks at him and says, "Are you serious? Not only would that be brandishing a firearm, you're on a motorcycle, and he's in a TRUCK! If he runs you over, he can say you were brandishing, and felt threatened by your actions." Needless to say, Bernie thought twice about his scenario, and we all got a pretty good laugh.
Marty's turn came up and his question was this:
I leave my garage open sometimes, and these kids came by at like 2 in the morning and stole my weedeater. Since it was 2 in the morning, I could shoot them right? The instructor looks at him and says, "Would you have a justification, possibly. But come on, shooting someone over a weedeater?" And thus, we had a lecture about "People over property."
I guess that this goes to show you that not everyone who needs a CHL has one, and not everyone that has one needs one.
The right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed.
Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
This guy was not in my class (Thank God!) but our instructor told of about a guy in an earlier class that wanted to know where he should put lights on his truck to be able to pull people over after he got his CHL!
motleystew wrote:This guy was not in my class (Thank God!) but our instructor told of about a guy in an earlier class that wanted to know where he should put lights on his truck to be able to pull people over after he got his CHL!
Ya know, I KNOW where you live.
I swear I felt like I was in Junior High. I qualified with America's worst ever handgun, a Sigma. I sure don't miss that S&W junk.
