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Nevada patient confirmed with 2nd case of Covid in 48 days.

I guess if the Chinese were going to make a virus, and release it, it might as well be a good one.
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SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly
Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210
Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone -
Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... illnesses/
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jason812 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:05 pm Just remember this next time king Abbott and his lieutenants are on a ballot.
You would prefer any Democrat? Perhaps someone like Cuomo?

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Recent Coronavirus (Covid- 19) Timeline

March 22, 2020 - Sunday 318,662 world, 13,672 dead. 27,004 infected US,
347 dead. 53,578 Italy, 4,825 dead. 81,397 China. Texas has 557 with 5 deaths. Houston at 154.

March 25, 2020 - First day of Quarantine in Houston. Trump declares State of Emergency.

March 29, 2020 - 10:48 am. Sunday 684,652 cases worldwide with 32,113 dead. 124,763 infected US, 2,187 dead. 92,472 Italy with (no data) dead. 82,120 China (is anyone believing this). New York state has 53,520 with 834 deaths. Louisiana has 3,315 with 137 deaths. Texas has 2,535 with 34 deaths. Houston 810 with 6 deaths.

April 1, 2020 - End of first week of Quarantine in Houston.

April 5, 2020 12:46 pm. Sunday 1,249,107 cases worldwide with 67,999 dead. 256,059 recovered. USA 324,052 infected, 9,132 dead 16,789 recovered. 128,948 Italy with 15,362 dead. 130,759 Spain with 12,418 dead. China 82,602 with 3,333 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 122,056 with 4,159 deaths. New Jersey has 34,124 with 864 deaths. Louisiana has 12,496 with 409 deaths. Texas has 6,872 with 123 deaths. Houston 2,281(+252) with 35 deaths.

April 8, 2020 End of second week of Quarantine in Houston

April 12, 2020 11:19 am. (16hrs) Easter Sunday 1,800,791 (+30,277 average of +75,290 over 2 days) cases worldwide with 110,892 dead 412,777 recovered. USA 530,830 (+4,434 average of 39,862 over 2 days) infected, 20,646 dead 32,314 recovered, 82,809 JH hospitalized, 39,460 (+496) UofM hospitalized. 152,271 (+0) Italy with 19,468 dead. 166,019 (-15,007) Spain with 16,672 dead. China 83,134 with 3,343 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 181,825 (+11,067) with 8,650 deaths, 33,244 hospitalized. New Jersey has 58,151 with 2,183 deaths. California has 22,416 (+710) with 634 deaths. Louisiana has 20,014 (+0) with 806 deaths. Texas has 13,391(+368) with 273 deaths, 1514 hospitalized. Houston 5,289 (+6) with 82 deaths.

April 15, 2020 End of third week of Quarantine in Houston.

April 19, 2020 12:46 pm. Sunday (24 hr) 2,367,758 (+74,114 a 30% drop) cases worldwide with 163,134 dead 609,505 recovered. USA 737,319 (+21,783 a 50% drop) infected, 39,135 dead 66,870 recovered, 114,123 (+1,863 a 33% drop) JH hospitalized, 44,117 (+3,566) UofM hospitalized. Italy 178,972 (+3,047 a 54% drop) with 23,227 dead. Spain 195,944(+4,218) with 20,043 dead. China 83,805 with 4,636 dead (is anyone believing this). New York state has 242,570 (+7,175 a 39% drop) with 17,627 deaths, 54,339 hospitalized. New Jersey has 85,464(+4,073) with 4,364 deaths. California has 30,832 (+1,286) with 1,150 deaths. Florida has 25,996 with 764 deaths. Louisiana has 23,580 (-4) with 1,267 deaths. Texas has 18,982 (+694 a 33% drop) with 485 deaths, 1,321 hospitalized (-201). Houston 7,102 (+289 a 7% drop) with 139 deaths.

April 22, 2020 End of fourth week of Quarantine in Houston.

April 26, 2020 12:20 pm.(19 hr) Sunday 2,934,141(+119,797) cases worldwide with 205,142 dead 853,666 recovered. USA 943,865(+49,724) infected, 55,118 dead 105,982 recovered, 126,194 (+2,104) JH hospitalized, 48,117 (+0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 199,414 (+2,357) with 26977 dead. Spain226,629 (+3,995) with 23,521 dead. China 83,912 with 4,637 dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 18,640(+613) with 2,194 dead. New York state has 282,143 (+0) with 22,376 deaths, 57,103 hospitalized. New Jersey has 105,523(+5,473) with 5,938 deaths. California has 42,626 (+1,895) with 1,698 deaths. Florida has 31,523(+665) with 1,075 deaths. Louisiana has 26,512 (+0) with 1,707 deaths. Georgia has 23,401(+548) with 912 deaths. Texas has 24,157(+1096) with 638 deaths, 1,597 hospitalized (+0). Houston 8,925 (+2) with 184 deaths.

April 27, 2020 First day of Required Facecovering in Harris County, Texas

April 28, 2020 No fine or prison for not facecovering in Texas per Governor Abbott order.

April 29, 2020 End of fifth week of Quarantine in Houston.

May 1, 2020 - First day of partial open in Texas, Florida and Georgia partially opened a little earlier.

May 3, 2020 7:00pm (27 hr) Sunday 3,503,533(+100,124) cases worldwide with 247306 dead 1,124,240 recovered. USA 1,157,687(+34,817) infected, 67,682 dead 180,152 recovered, 48,325 (+0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 210,717 (+1,389) with 28,884 dead. Spain 217,466(+4,031) with 24,543 dead. Brazil 101,147 with 7,051 dead. China 83,959 (+1) with 4,637 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 22,317 (+235) with 2,679 dead. New York state has 316,415 (+3,438) with 24,708 deaths,68,736 hospitalized. New Jersey has 126,744 (+3,027) with 7,871 deaths. California has 54,499 (+2,203) with 2,216 deaths. Florida has 36,078(+615) with 1,379 deaths. Louisiana has 29,340 (+200) with 2,012 deaths. Georgia has 28,666(+352) with 1,184 deaths. Texas has 31,998(+1,461) with 878 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 10,936 (+432) with 260 deaths.

May 6, 2020 End of sixth week of Quarantine in Houston with now more exceptions.

May 8, 2020 - Hair, tan and nail salons and public swimming pools can reopen in Texas. Tattoo parlors, Bars and Gyms are still closed.

May 10, 2020 11:52 pm (36 hr) Mother's Day Sunday 4,101,699(+99,535) cases worldwide with 282,709 dead 1,408,980 recovered. USA 1,329,260 (+30,370) infected, 79,528 dead 216,169 recovered, 41,832 (-2,837) UofM hospitalized. Italy 219,070 (+942) with 30,560 dead. Spain 224,350 (+1,451) with 26,621 dead. Russia 209,688 (+10,914) with 1,915 dead. Brazil 162,699 (+11,338) with 11,123 dead. China 84,010 (+17) with 4,637 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 26,322 (+528) with 3,225 dead. New York state has 335,395 (+994) with 26,641 deaths, 72,715 hospitalized. New Jersey has 138,754 (+2,381) with 9,256 deaths. California has 67,875 (+2,664) with 2,718 deaths. Florida has40,596 (+698) with 1,721 deaths. Louisiana has 31,600 (+372) with 2,286 deaths. Georgia has 33,836(+908) with 1,406 deaths. Texas has 39,258(+1,285) with 1,094 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 12,531 (+307) with 325 deaths.

May 13, 2020 End of seventh week of Quarantine in Houston, more stuff opening on Friday.

May 17, 2020 2:30 pm (22 hr) Sunday 4,687,320 (+81,647) cases worldwide with 313,973 dead 1,721,714 recovered. USA 1,478,241(+14,745) infected, 89,207 dead 268,376 recovered, 40,027 (-0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 225,435 (+675) with 31,908 dead. Spain 230,698 (+0) with 27,563 dead. UK 244,603 (+3,158) with 34,716 dead. Russia 281,752 (+9,709) with 2,631 dead. Brazil 233,648 (+4,771) with 15,668 dead. China 84,047 (+9) with 4,638 (+1) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 30,143 (+466) with 3,679 dead. New York state has 350,121 (+1,889) with 28,232 deaths, 75,163 hospitalized. New Jersey has 146,504 (+1,415) with 10,363 deaths. California has 78,860 (+1,854) with 3,208 deaths. Florida has 45,588 (+777) with 1,973 deaths. Louisiana has 34,432 (+315) with 2,491 deaths. Georgia has 37,667 (+506) with 1,606 deaths. Texas has 47,470 (+363) with 1,318 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 14,394 (+144) with 376 (+0) deaths.

May 20, 2020 End of Eighth week of Quarantine in Houston, extended to June 10 by Judge Hildalgo. More stuff opens on Friday by order of the Gov.

May 24, 2020 4:00pm (98 hr) Sunday, Memorial Day Weekend 5,370,893 (+104,517) (per 24 hr average over 4 days typical) cases worldwide with 343,617 dead 2,149,412 recovered. USA 1,639,872(+25,059) infected, 97,495 dead 361,239 recovered, 40,027 (-0) UofM hospitalized. Italy 229,858 (+623) with 32,785 dead. Spain 235,772 (+804) with 28,752 dead. UK 260,916 (+2,693) with 36,875 dead. Russia 344,481 (+8,994) with 3,541 dead. Brazil 347,398 (+18,942) with 22,013 dead. China 84,084 (+21) with 4,638 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 33,459 (+484) with 3,998 dead. New York state has 361,515 (+1,786) with 29,141 deaths, 77,034 hospitalized. New Jersey has 154,154 (+844) with 11,138 deaths. California has 93,025 (+2,347) with 3,738 deaths. Florida has 50,867 (+849) with 2,237 deaths. Louisiana has 37,169 (+463) with 2,691 deaths. Georgia has 42,495 (+707) with 1,824 deaths. Texas has 55,145 (+1,132) with 1,520 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 16,655 (+298) with 411 (+6) deaths.

May 27, 2020 End of Ninth week of Quarantine in Houston.

May 25-31 Protests and Rioting in the US over the death of George Floyd.

May 31, 2020 2:45pm (51hr) Sunday 6,083,633 (+107,953) (per 24 hr average over 2 days typical) cases worldwide with 369,593 dead 2,587,964 recovered. USA 1,779,853(+25,334) infected, 101,963 dead 416,461 recovered, 30,523(-1,562) UofM hospitalized. Italy 232,997 (+384) with 33,416 dead. Spain 239,479 (+457) with 27,127 dead. UK 276,156 (+1,776) with 38,2571 dead. Russia 405,843 (+9,110) with 4,693 dead. Brazil 465,166 (+13,464) with 27,878 dead. China 84,130 (+10) with 4,638 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 37,542 (+533) with 4,395 dead. India 190,536(+8,983) with 5,406 dead... New York state has 370,770 (+2,018) with 29,784 deaths, 89,400 hospitalized. New Jersey has 160,471 (+1,328) with 11,698 deaths. California has 110,917 (+3,490) with 4,146 deaths. Florida has 56,163 (+1,439) with 2,451 deaths. Louisiana has 39,916 (+557) with 2,792 deaths. Georgia has 46,994 (+598) with 2,041 deaths. Texas has 62,894 (+1,239) with 1,657 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 19,118 (+348) with 435 (+8) deaths.

June 3, 2020 End of tenth week of quarantine. Protests, marches and rioting continuing across the US.

June 7, 2020 5:00pm(50hr) Sunday 6,981,70 (+114,726) (per 24 hr average over 2 days) cases worldwide with 402,120 dead 2,986,625 recovered. USA 1,938,931 (+24,589) infected, 108,813 dead 485,002 recovered, 25,567 (-885) UofM hospitalized.Italy 234,998 (+233) with 33,899 dead. Spain 241,550 (+286) with 27,136 dead. UK 287,621 (+1,445) with 40,625 dead. Russia 467,073 (+8,908) with 5,851 dead. Brazil 672,846 (+28,952) with 35,930 dead. China 84,187 (+7) with 4,638 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 44,730 (+895) with 4,659 dead. India 257,506 (+10,723) with7,207 dead... New York state has 378,097 (+944) with 30,374 deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 164,164 (+414) with 12,176 deaths. California has 129,078 (+3,006) with 4,610 deaths. Florida has 63,938 (+1,225) with 2,700 deaths. Louisiana has 42,816 (+413) with 2,912 deaths. Georgia has 51,901 (+636) with 2,181 deaths. Minnesota has 27,886(+453) with 1,197 death. Texas has 75,404 (+1,965) with 1,841 deaths, 1,542 hospitalized (+0). Houston 23,207 (+568) with 439 (+18) deaths.

June 10, 2020 End of eleventh week of quarantine, but not much of a quarantine anymore.

June 14, 2020 11:00pm (55hr) Sunday 7,900,924 (+163,612) (per 24 hr average over 2 days) cases worldwide with 433,066 dead 3,769,712 recovered. USA 2,094,058 (+30,527) infected, 115,732 dead 561,816 recovered, 22,531 (-891) UofM hospitalized.Italy 236,989 (+342) with 34,345 dead. Spain 243,928 (+110) with 27,136 dead. UK 297,342 (+1,470) with 41,783 dead. Russia 528,267 (+8,753) with 7,081 dead. Brazil 867,624 (+32,398) with 43,332 dead. China 84,335 (+57) with 4,638 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 51,614 (+965) with 4,891 dead. India 320,922 (+12,193) with 9,520 dead... New York state has 383,324 (+805) with 30,824 deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 166,881 (+358) with 12,659 deaths. California has 152,300 (+4,372) with 5,099 deaths. Florida has 75,568 (+2,298) with 2,931 deaths. Louisiana has 46,619 (+812) with 3,014 deaths. Georgia has 57,681 (+1,354) with 2,451 deaths. Minnesota has 30,471 (+338) with 1,305 death. Texas has 88,523 (+2,932) with 1,984 deaths, 2,242 hospitalized (+97). Houston 26,434 (+563) with 504 (+5) deaths.

June 17, 2020 End of twelfth week of quarantine, but not much of a quarantine anymore. That is still 3 months.

June 21, 2020 12:00pm (69hr)Sunday Father's Day 8,835,095 (+142,590) (per 24 hr average over 3 days) cases worldwide with 464,284 dead 4,389,394 recovered. USA 2,264,168 (+29,774) infected, 119,796 dead 617,460 recovered, 22,839 (+112) UofM hospitalized. Italy 238,499 (+113) with 34,634 dead. Spain 246,272 (+334) with 28,323. UK 305,803 (+1,289) with 42,717 dead. Russia 583,879 (+7,852) with 8,101 dead. Brazil 1,032,913 (+25,845) with 49,976 dead. China 84,556 (+31) with 4,639 (+.333) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 56,043 (+0) with 5,053 dead. India 410,451 (+14,501) with 12,237 dead. Mexico 175,202 (+5,136) with 20,781dead ... New York state has 387,936 (+725) with 31,083 (+38) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 169,221 (+380) with 12,869 deaths. California has 175,291 (+3,916) with 5,497 deaths. Florida has 97,291 (+3,788) with 3,161 deaths. Louisiana has 49,778 (+381) with 3,105 deaths. Georgia has 63,809 (+1,259) with 2,642 deaths. Minnesota has 32,920 (+414) with 1,412 death. Texas has 106,581 (+3,127) with 2,183 (+33) deaths, 3,247 hospitalized (+243). Houston 32,904 (+1,224) with 555 (+12) deaths.

June 24, 2020 End of thirteenth week of quarantine.
June 26, 2020 Gov. Abbot orders Bars closed again, restaurants back to 50%

June 28, 2020 2:00pm (120hr) Sunday 10,055,037 (+180,161) (per 24 hr average over 5 days) cases worldwide with 499,967 dead 5,087,006 recovered. USA 2,534,981 (+41,802) infected, 125,808 dead 685,164 recovered, 22,839 (+602) UofM hospitalized. Italy 240,310 (+295) with 34,738 dead. Spain 248,770 (+403) with 28,343 dead. UK 312,640 (+991) with 43,634 dead. Russia 633,542 (+6,932) with 9,152 dead. Brazil 1,313,667 (+41,439) with 57,662 dead. China 84,745 (+21) with 4,641 (+.2) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 65,137 (+850) with 5,310 dead. India 528,856 (+17,728) with 16,475 dead. Mexico 212,802 (+5,536) with 26,648 dead ... New York state has 392,539 (+690) with 31,397 (+40) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 171,182 (+301) with 14,975 deaths. California has 215,417 (+6,093) with 5,934 deaths. Florida has 141,075 (+7,514) with 3,419 deaths. Louisiana has 51,601 (+911) with 3,136 deaths. Georgia has 77,210 (+2,440) with 2,778 deaths. Minnesota has 33,469 (+416) with 1,460 deaths. Texas has 150,152 (+6,411) with 2,402 (+38) deaths, 3,711 hospitalized (+232). Houston 45,368 (+1,918) with 624 (+12) deaths.

July 1,2020 End of fourteenth week of quarantine. USA and Texas set daily records for Covid-19 infections.

July 2, 2020 2:00pm (96hr) 10,761,214 (+176,544) (per 24 hr average over 4 days) cases worldwide with 517,647 dead 5,522,094 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +71,389). USA 2,713,195 (+44,553) infected, 128,439 dead 729,994 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +33,357), 32,521(+2,420) UofM hospitalized. Italy 240,961 (+162) with 34,818 dead. Spain 250,103 (+333) with 28,368 dead. UK 314,992 (+588) with 44,305 dead. Russia 660,231 (+6,672) with 9,668 dead. Brazil 1,448,753 (+33,771) with 60,632 dead. China 84,825 (+20) with 4,641 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 70,639 (+1,375) with 5,411 dead. India 604,641 (+18,946) with 17,834 dead. Mexico 231,770 (+4,742) with 28,510 dead ... New York state has 394,954 (+603) with 32,062 (+166) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 172,356 (+293) with 15,107 deaths. California has 239,161 (+5,936) with 6,171 deaths. Florida has 169,106 (+7,007) with 3,617 deaths. Louisiana has 61,561 (+2,490) with 3,255 deaths. Georgia has 84,237 (+1,756) with 2,849 deaths. Minnesota has 37,210 (+935) with 1,460 deaths. Texas has 172,486 (+5,583) with 2,503 (+25) deaths, 6,904 hospitalized (+798). Houston 51,378 (+1,502) with 645 (+5) deaths.

July 5, 2020 2:00pm (72hr) Sunday 11,317,637 (+185,474) (per 24 hr average over 3 days) cases worldwide with 531,729 dead 6,111,910 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by -11,313). USA 2,852,807 (+46,537) infected, 129,947 dead 906,763 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by -12,386), 49,10735,481 (+986) UofM hospitalized. Italy 241,611 (+216) with 34,861 dead. Spain 250,545 (+147) with 28,385 dead. UK 286,931 (-9,350) with 43,991 dead. Russia680,283 (+6,684) with 10,145 dead. Brazil 1,577,004 (+42,750) with 64,867 dead. China 84,858 (+11) with 4,641 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 71,419 (+260) with 5,420 dead. India 673,165 (+22,841) with 19,693 dead. Mexico 252,165 (+6,798) with 30,639 dead ... New York state has 397,131 (+725) with 32,157 (+31) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 173,402 (+348) with 15,211 deaths. California has 264,681 (+8,506) with 6,373 deaths. Florida has 200,111 (+10,335) with 3,731 deaths. Louisiana has 65,226 (+1,221) with 3,288 deaths. Georgia has 95,516 (+3,759) with 2,860 deaths. Minnesota has 38,136 (+308) with 1,508 deaths. Texas has 194,932 (+7,482) with 2,628 (+41) deaths, 8,181 hospitalized (+798). Houston 56,863 (+1,828) with 670 (+8) deaths.

July 12, 2020 10:00pm (7 days) Sunday 12,872,434 (+222,113) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 568,296 dead 7,089,892 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +82,401). USA 3,302,665 (+64,265) infected, 135,176 dead 1,006,326 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +50,041), 49,107 (+1,946) UofM hospitalized. Italy 243,061 (+207) with 34,954 dead. Spain 253,908 (+480) with 28,403 dead. UK 291,154 (+603) with 44,904 dead. Russia 726,036 (+6,536) with 11,318 dead. Brazil 1,864,681 (+41,096) with 72,100 dead. China 85,109 (+35) with 4,641 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 74,898 (+497) with 5,526 dead. India 849,553 (+25,198) with 22,674 dead. Mexico 299,750 (+6,797) with 35,006 dead ... New York state has 401,706 (+609) with 32,350 (+27) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 175,298 (+270) with 15,525 deaths. California has 324,543 (+8,551) with 7,051 deaths. Florida has 269,811 (+9,957) with 4,242 deaths. Louisiana has 76,776 (+1,650) with 3,416 deaths. Georgia has 116,935 (+3,059) with 3,003 deaths. Minnesota has 42,281 (+592) with 1,540 deaths. Texas has 262,000 (+9,581) with 3,203 (+82) deaths, 10,083 hospitalized (+798). Houston 69,776 (+1,844) with 771 (+14) deaths.

July 19, 2020 4:00pm (3 days)Sunday 14,438,838 (+257,573) (per 24 hr average over 3 days) cases worldwide with 605,050 dead 8,105,360 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +101,004). USA 3,760,327 (+71,152) infected,140,474 dead 1,131,121 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +17,579), 53,646 (+304) UofM hospitalized. Italy 244,434 (+232) with 35,045 dead. Spain 260,255 (+466) with 28,420 dead. UK 296,358 (+749) with 45,385 dead. Russia 770,311 (+6,233) with 12,323 dead. Brazil 2,074,860 (+36,037) with 79,488 dead. China 85,314 (+0) with 4,644 (+0) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 77,281 (+134) with 5,619 dead. India 1,077,781 (+36,301) with 26,816 dead. Mexico 338,913 (+7,071) with 39,184 dead. South Africa 364,328 infections, 5,033 deaths... New York state has 406,807 (+677) with 32,490 (+14) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 176,783 (+94) with 15,706 deaths. California has 385,908 (+10,148) with 7,714 deaths. Florida has 350,047 (+11,424) with 4,982 deaths. Louisiana has 91,706 (+1,765) with 3,543 deaths. Georgia has 143,624 (+3,998) with 3,174 deaths. Minnesota has 46,204 (+519) with 1,581 deaths. Texas has 331,141 (+12,904) with 3,979 (+153) deaths, 10,658 hospitalized (+29). Houston 87,169 (+2,304) with 885 (+38) deaths.

July 22, 2020 end of 18th week of quarantine. Pretty much everyone wearing a mask indoors in public places.

July 26, 2020 5:30pm (7 days)Sunday 16,157,585 (+245,535) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 647,159 dead 9,325,892 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +71,173). USA 4,227,364 (+66,719) infected, 146,889 dead 1,297,863 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +23,820), 53,329 (-45) UofM hospitalized. Italy 246,941 (+358) with 35,107 dead. Spain 272,421 (+1,738) with 28,432 dead. UK 301,020 (+666) with 45,837 dead. Russia 811,073 (+5,823) with 13,249 dead. Brazil 2,394,513 (+45,664) with 86,449 dead. China 86,637 (+27) with 4,652 (+1) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 78,997 (+245) with 5,697 dead. India 1,385,685 (+43,986) with 32,771 dead. Mexico 390,516 (+7,371) with 43,680 dead. South Africa 445,433 (+11,586) infections, 6,769 deaths... New York state has 411,736 (+704) with 32,630 (+20) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 179,363 (+268) with 15,787 deaths. California has 452,288 (+9,482) with 8,448 deaths. Florida has 423,855 (+10,544) with 5,854 deaths. Louisiana has 107,574 (+2,266) with 3,763 deaths. Georgia has 167,853 (+3,361) with 3,498 deaths. Minnesota has 51,153 (+707) with 1,614 deaths. Texas has 394,084 (+8,991) with 5,076 (+156) deaths, 10,075 hospitalized (-83). Houston 102,706 (+2,219) with1,038 (+21) deaths.

July 29, 2020 end of 19th week of quarantine. Pretty much everyone wearing a mask indoors in public places. Looks like school is not going to start in person in big cities. Houston's County Judge fighting with Gov. over who can order schools closed. This is the 4th month I have been tracking this virus here. At the time in March the US had 27,000 cases, Texas had 500 and 5 deaths.

August 2, 2020 8:30pm (7 days)Sunday 18,002,567 (+263,568) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 647,159 dead 10,690,359 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +68,644). USA 4,665,932 (+62,652) infected,154,841(+1,136) dead 1,468,689 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +38,248), 51,052 (-325) UofM hospitalized. Italy 248,070 (+161) with 35,154 dead. Spain 288,522 (+2,300) with 28,445 dead. UK 306,317 (+756) with 46,286 dead. Russia 849,277 (+5,457) with 14,104 dead. Brazil 2,733,677 (+48,452) with 94,104 dead. China 87,976 (+191) with 4,669 (+2) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 80,422 (+203) with 5,743 dead. India 1,750,723 (+52,148) with 37,364 dead. Mexico 439,046 (+6,932) with 47,746 dead. South Africa 511,485 (+9,436) infections, 8,366 deaths... New York state has 416,298 (+651) with 32,710 (+11) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 182,350 (+426) with 15,836 deaths. California has 512,175 (+8,555) with 9,396 deaths. Florida has 487,132 (+9,039) with 7,084 deaths. Louisiana has 119,747 (+1,739) with 4,007 deaths. Georgia has 193,177 (+3,617) with 3,840 deaths. Minnesota has 55,947 (+684) with 1,654 deaths. Texas has 448,145 (+7,723) with 6,878 (+257) deaths, 9,336 hospitalized (-105). Houston 118,215 (+2,215) with1,262 (+32) deaths.

August 5, 2020 end of 20th week of quarantine

August 9, 2020 9:30pm (7 days)Sunday 19,780,612 (+254,006) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 729,692 dead 12,044,654 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +60,535). USA 5,044,769 (+54,119) infected,162,938 (+1,156) dead 1,656,864 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +27,236), 33,691(-2,480) UofM hospitalized. Italy 250,566 (+356) with 35,205 dead. Spain 314,362 (+3,691) with 28,503 dead. UK 312,555 (+891) with 46,659 dead. Russia 885,718 (+5,206) with 14,903 dead. Brazil 3,035,422 (+43,106) with 101,049 dead. China 88,793 (+116) with 4,686 (+2) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 82,323 (+271) with 5,763 dead. India 2,153,010 (+57,469) with 43,379 dead. Mexico 480,278 (+5,890) with 52,298 dead. South Africa 559,859 (+6,910) infections, 10,408 deaths... New York state has 420,860 (+651) with 32,774 (+9) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 184,773 (+346) with 15,874 deaths. California has 559,764 (+6,798) with 10,377 deaths. Florida has 532,806 (+6,524) with 8,186 deaths. Louisiana has 131,399 (+1,664) with 4,263 deaths. Georgia has 216,596 (+3,345) with 4,199 deaths. Minnesota has 60,898 (+707) with 1,698 deaths. Texas has 503,328 (+7,883) with 9,157 (+325) deaths, 7,872 hospitalized (-209). Houston 132,264 (+2,007) with 1,495 (+33) deaths.

August 12 2020 end of 21th week of quarantine. Business is not back to normal in Houston, but there is more traffic on the streets and we even have murders in bars now.

August 16, 2020 4:30 (7 days)Sunday 21,544,700 (+252,012) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 772,692 dead 13,528,416 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +40,046). USA 5,388,931(+49,166) infected,169,841(+986) dead 1,818,526 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +26,071), 41,262 (+1,081) UofM hospitalized. Italy 253,915 (+478) with 35,437 dead. Spain 342,813 (+4,064) with 28,617 dead. UK 320,343 (+1,112) with 46,791 dead. Russia 920,719 (+5,000) with 15,653 dead. Brazil 3,317,096 (+40,239) with 107,232 dead. China 89,353 (+80) with 4,703 (+2) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 84,294 (+281) with 5,783 dead. India 2,589,682 (+62,381) with 49,980 dead. Mexico 517,714 (+5,264 with 56,543 dead. South Africa 587,345 (+3,926) 11,839 deaths... New York state has 425,508 (+664) with 32,840 (+9) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 187,455(+383) with15,912 deaths. California has 620,271 (+8,643) with 11,246 deaths. Florida has 573,416 (+5,801) with 9,452 deaths. Louisiana has 137,918 (+931) with 4,507 deaths. Georgia has 237,030 (+2,919) with 4,702 deaths. Minnesota has 65,152 (+607) with 1,752 deaths. Texas has 554,826 (+7,356) with 10,399 (+177) deaths, 6, 481hospitalized (-198). Houston 144,461(+1,742) with 1,702 (+29) deaths.

August 19, 2020 end of 22th week of quarantine.

August 23, 2020 11:30pm (7 days)Sunday 23,358,598 (+259,128) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 808,676 dead 15,137,203 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +29,301). USA 5,701,938 (+44,715) infected,176,802 (+994) dead 1,997,761 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +19,110), 36,335 (-703) UofM hospitalized. Italy 259,345 (+775) with 35,396 dead. Spain 386,054 (+6,117) with 28,838 dead. UK 327,643 (+1,042) with 41,515 dead. Russia 954,328 (+4,801) with 16,341 dead. Brazil 3,605,783 (+41,241) with 114,744 dead. China 89,353 (+48) with 4,711 (+2) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 86,068 (+253) with 5,810 dead. India 3,044,940 (+65,036) with 57,542 dead Mexico 560,164 (+6,064) with 60,480 dead. South Africa 609,773 (+3,204) 13,058 deaths... New York state has 429,737 (+604) with 32,883 (+6) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 189,494(+291) with 15,946 deaths. California has 669,280 (+7,001) with 12,153 deaths. Florida has 600,571(+3,879) with 10,325 deaths. Louisiana has 142,943 (+717) with 4,746 deaths. Georgia has 253,949 (+2,417) with 5,123 deaths. Minnesota has 69,584 (+607) with 1,813 deaths. Texas has 594,173 (+5,621) with 11,699 (+185) deaths, 5,274 hospitalized (-172). Houston 155,431 (+1,567) with 1,899 (+28) deaths.

August 26, 2020 end of 23th week of quarantine.

August 30, 2020 3:30pm (7 days)Sunday 25,095,138 (+248,077) (per 24 hr average over 7 days) cases worldwide with 844,095 dead 16,486,190 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +55,365). USA 5,989,470 (+41,076) infected,182,982 (+882) dead 2,140,614 recovered (new cases outpace recoveries by +20,407), 31,795 (-648) UofM hospitalized. Italy 268,218 (+1,267) with 35,477 dead. Spain 439,286 (+7,604) with 29,011 dead. UK 336,641 (+1,285) with 41,586 dead. Russia 987,470 (+4,734) with 17,045 dead. Brazil 3,846,159 (+34,339) with 120,462 dead. China 69,878 (+48) with 4,722 (+1) dead (is anyone believing this) Sweden 83,958 (+) with 5,821 dead. India 3,542,733 (+71,113) with 63,498 dead Mexico 591,712 (+4,506) with 63,819 dead. South Africa 625,056 (+2,183) 14,028 deaths... New York state has 434,100 (+623) with 32,944 (+8) deaths, 89,995 hospitalized. New Jersey has 191,611 (+302) with 15,937 deaths. California has 704,679 (+5,057) with 12,927 deaths. Florida has 600,571(+3,879) with 10,325 deaths. Louisiana has 147,867 (+703) with 4,931 deaths. Georgia has 268,973 (+2,146) with 5,604 deaths. Minnesota has 75,337 (+821) with 1,864 deaths. Texas has 627,698 (+4,789) with 12,671 (+138) deaths, 4,149 hospitalized (-160). Houston 170,276 (+1,349) with 1,899 (+26) deaths.

For detailed information on Texas see https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/ops ... b9cafc8b83
For worldwide information on Covid-19 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6
For Covid-19 hospital admissions https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/mili-misr ... ng-project
For FOX timeline https://www.foxnews.com/world/timeline- ... us-coverup
For worldwide mortality analysis https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
By County USA Map https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
If you like graphs this is your site https://coronavirus.smartnews.com/us/

Texas has moved into 2nd place ahead of Florida, California is still in the lead in the US. No protest bump in Minnesota. Sweden still has few cases with the whole place open. India is now number 1 in new cases per day. US and Texas hospitalizations down.

Wear a mask in public.
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New CDC report shows 94% of COVID-19 deaths in US had contributing conditions
https://fox40.com/news/national-and-wor ... onditions/

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E10 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:20 am
jason812 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:05 pm Just remember this next time king Abbott and his lieutenants are on a ballot.
You would prefer any Democrat? Perhaps someone like Cuomo?
The next time he will be on a ballot will be a primary.
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https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/0 ... nment.html

Pope finds a use for the Coronavirus.
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Grayling813 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:00 pm New CDC report shows 94% of COVID-19 deaths in US had contributing conditions
https://fox40.com/news/national-and-wor ... onditions/
I love statistics. You can prove just about anything if you're clever enough with how you parse the data and phrase the results.

How many of those 94% counted as having "underlying conditions" were simply 10 pounds overweight, or had mild hypertension? Or some other spooky sounding "underlying condition" that's actually incredibly common?

I wonder who the CDC was trying to placate with this bit of statistical whitewashing?
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RoyGBiv wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:45 pm
Grayling813 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:00 pm New CDC report shows 94% of COVID-19 deaths in US had contributing conditions
https://fox40.com/news/national-and-wor ... onditions/
I love statistics. You can prove just about anything if you're clever enough with how you parse the data and phrase the results.

How many of those 94% counted as having "underlying conditions" were simply 10 pounds overweight, or had mild hypertension? Or some other spooky sounding "underlying condition" that's actually incredibly common?

I wonder who the CDC was trying to placate with this bit of statistical whitewashing?
Now Eff Book "fact" checkers are marking these posts as "False!"

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BigGuy wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:58 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:45 pm
Grayling813 wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:00 pm New CDC report shows 94% of COVID-19 deaths in US had contributing conditions
https://fox40.com/news/national-and-wor ... onditions/
I love statistics. You can prove just about anything if you're clever enough with how you parse the data and phrase the results.

How many of those 94% counted as having "underlying conditions" were simply 10 pounds overweight, or had mild hypertension? Or some other spooky sounding "underlying condition" that's actually incredibly common?

I wonder who the CDC was trying to placate with this bit of statistical whitewashing?
Now Eff Book "fact" checkers are marking these posts as "False!"
just over 9k of real covid caused deaths. yes the cdc conned everyone. the information is on their website, it takes a few hours to drill through the data. face book and twitter claimed it as false. so that in itself says the real deaths of just over 9k are TRUE :anamatedbanana
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The data is published weekly at: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... orbidities.

And I'm not quite sure what the hullabaloo is from Fox News or any other sources, really. The CDC has been tracking this exact same data since February and publishing it every Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. Eastern since the start of May. If you want the whole dataset, go here https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Conditions-co ... /hk9y-quqm, and in the row with the button "View Data," click on "Export" and you can get it in a few different formats; in Excel (as a CSV) you'll get, as of this week, over 12,200 rows of data.

Not a doctor so I can't comment on how or exactly what co-morbidity conditions are tracked or precisely how they're defined; there's some explanation here, though: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... _notes.htm. The CDC uses the current revision of the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... f_Diseases). In that technical notes link, the CDC says:
Coronavirus disease deaths are identified using the ICD–10 code U07.1. Deaths are coded to U07.1 when coronavirus disease 2019 or COVID-19 are reported as a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate. These can include laboratory confirmed cases, as well as cases without laboratory confirmation. If the certifier suspects COVID-19 or determines it was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), they can report COVID-19 as “probable” or “presumed” on the death certificate.
Again, not sayin' correct or wrong, right or left, accurate or not. Just that this reporting has been publicly available in exactly this format for four and a half months now.
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Rafe wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:27 amAnd I'm not quite sure what the hullabaloo is from Fox News or any other sources, really.
From what I have seen, the hullabaloo recently is about how to define a COVID death and the way CDC reports it. The CDC recently reported that 94% of the people who had died from COVID also had some co-morbidity. People who want to say that COVID is not as serious jumped on this to say that COVID really only killed 6% of the deaths and the co-morbidities would have killed the rest. People who want to show COVID is more serious say these people would have lived with their other problems anyway if they had not caught COVID.

I believe that the truth on COVID is probably somewhere in the middle. Some of the people with COVID and co-morbidities certainly would have died anyway. I am also certain some of them would have lived for years anyway. One of the best examples of the problem is when they list obesity as the existing condition. A person can be as few as 20 pounds overweight or as much as 100 pounds overweight and still be obese. I think the guy with the extra 20 pounds would probably last a long time, but the guy with the extra 100 pounds is probably close to a life threatening condition already.

The real problem is that by listing the existing conditions, it confuses how serious COVID is. This happens with other diseases also. Flu for example is much more deadly in the elderly and in people with compromised immune systems than it is in healthy younger people.

I remember one statement from an author asking if a person who is more than 80 can really be said to have died from anything other than old age.
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srothstein wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:14 am
Rafe wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:27 amAnd I'm not quite sure what the hullabaloo is from Fox News or any other sources, really.
From what I have seen, the hullabaloo recently is about how to define a COVID death and the way CDC reports it. The CDC recently reported that 94% of the people who had died from COVID also had some co-morbidity. People who want to say that COVID is not as serious jumped on this to say that COVID really only killed 6% of the deaths and the co-morbidities would have killed the rest. People who want to show COVID is more serious say these people would have lived with their other problems anyway if they had not caught COVID.

I believe that the truth on COVID is probably somewhere in the middle. Some of the people with COVID and co-morbidities certainly would have died anyway. I am also certain some of them would have lived for years anyway. One of the best examples of the problem is when they list obesity as the existing condition. A person can be as few as 20 pounds overweight or as much as 100 pounds overweight and still be obese. I think the guy with the extra 20 pounds would probably last a long time, but the guy with the extra 100 pounds is probably close to a life threatening condition already.

The real problem is that by listing the existing conditions, it confuses how serious COVID is. This happens with other diseases also. Flu for example is much more deadly in the elderly and in people with compromised immune systems than it is in healthy younger people.

I remember one statement from an author asking if a person who is more than 80 can really be said to have died from anything other than old age.
I gotcha. My point, though, was that it wasn't only recently reported: the CDC has been publishing the same weekly report for four and half months. And they don't use their own fabricated classifications; what/how they report is structured by the International Classification of Diseases, Tenth Revision, Clinical Modification (ICD-10-CM)--soon to be the 11th revision, I think https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/--which standard is managed by the WHO. The CDC records influenza deaths the same way. And they get the data from the physician/hospital-filed death certificates, not from any polling or survey that the CDC does.

I can't say why this suddenly hit the limelight, but my guess is that some research intern at a local Fox affiliate looked at the August 26 weekly update--with no knowledge of or reference to all the 18 other weekly updates that have come out--and thought to himself, "Oh, wow!" The Fox affiliate had it online within a few hours, and boom, all over social media. President Trump even picked up on it. But it ain't new news.
I believe that the truth on COVID is probably somewhere in the middle. I am also certain some of them would have lived for years anyway. One of the best examples of the problem is when they list obesity as the existing condition. A person can be as few as 20 pounds overweight or as much as 100 pounds overweight and still be obese. I think the guy with the extra 20 pounds would probably last a long time, but the guy with the extra 100 pounds is probably close to a life threatening condition already.
Yeppers. I'm with you double-time. When I was much younger and lifted a lot more, I used to have this...discussion with a primary care doctor that I eventually dropped. Every time I'd go in, I'd get a lecture about being obese...per the BMI calculation which is also what the WHO goes by. I'd point out that I carried right around 10% body fat, and that muscle weighs about 20% more than fat...and then I'd offer to go out into the parking lot and lift the rear of a Honda Civic for him. Didn't matter. To him my BMI was over 30, therefore I was obese. But I would still keep that BMI-over-30 in that same physical condition if I was able now that I'm older; alas. Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson has a BMI of 32.

It's definitely an imperfect system, but I think the U.S. does it in a standardized fashion and as well as any place around the globe. And I think we're more transparent about the data than most. The Poynter Institute posted a fact-check piece on this yesterday: https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2 ... 4-to-9210/. They quoted Dr. Mark Halstead, an associate professor of orthopedic surgery and pediatrics at Washington University, to show how conditions get listed on a death certificate:
“So, let’s say someone was admitted to the hospital because of symptoms of COVID. They test positive, so COVID would be listed,” Halstead said in the post. “Their case progressed where they developed respiratory failure and now are on a ventilator. Respiratory failure can be listed.”

Additional conditions may be listed on a patient’s death certificate during the course of their stay in the hospital. For example, if a COVID-19 patient ended up dying from cardiac arrest, that could also be included.

“So now three things are listed on their death certificate,” Halstead wrote. “The COVID infection started the process but that led to the heart and lungs failing, which killed that person.”
From the CDC/NCHS perspective, it makes sense to me that the only real data they can go by are death certificates. I don't know where else they could look. If a 95-year-old who has stage 4 cancer is admitted to a hospital due to COVID-19 (or influenza), is it realistic to think that the virus was the only thing that killed her? 'Course not. But I suppose the point is she had the virus so we can't say it wasn't a contributing factor; she may have lived a couple of months longer if she hadn't caught the virus. I also think it's going to be interesting when the seasonal flu gets in full swing and we have patients who have both the flu and are COVID-19 positive. Both may be on the death certificate, so do they count the death twice, once for the flu and once for COVID? Dunno...
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srothstein wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:14 am
Rafe wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:27 amAnd I'm not quite sure what the hullabaloo is from Fox News or any other sources, really.
From what I have seen, the hullabaloo recently is about how to define a COVID death and the way CDC reports it. The CDC recently reported that 94% of the people who had died from COVID also had some co-morbidity. People who want to say that COVID is not as serious jumped on this to say that COVID really only killed 6% of the deaths and the co-morbidities would have killed the rest. People who want to show COVID is more serious say these people would have lived with their other problems anyway if they had not caught COVID.

I believe that the truth on COVID is probably somewhere in the middle. Some of the people with COVID and co-morbidities certainly would have died anyway. I am also certain some of them would have lived for years anyway. One of the best examples of the problem is when they list obesity as the existing condition. A person can be as few as 20 pounds overweight or as much as 100 pounds overweight and still be obese. I think the guy with the extra 20 pounds would probably last a long time, but the guy with the extra 100 pounds is probably close to a life threatening condition already.

The real problem is that by listing the existing conditions, it confuses how serious COVID is. This happens with other diseases also. Flu for example is much more deadly in the elderly and in people with compromised immune systems than it is in healthy younger people.

I remember one statement from an author asking if a person who is more than 80 can really be said to have died from anything other than old age.
Well said, Steve. On another forum, an ED MD chimed in that in general it is rare that one cause of death is listed.
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