I would like to organize a State Fair of Texas day for forum members and was looking up details on their website when I found this...
State Fair of Texas prohibits Fair attendees (including LTC holders) from openly carrying handguns while at the Fair. If an individual attempts to enter the Fair with an openly carried handgun, he or she will not be allowed to enter the Fair unless he or she conceals the handgun (if he or she has a valid LTC) or secures the handgun in his or her vehicle or at some offsite location. If an LTC holder enters the Fair with a concealed handgun and then begins to openly carry the handgun, he or she will be asked to either conceal the handgun or to leave the Fair. http://bigtex.com/info/faq/
My questions are..
1. Under what authority can they prohibit Open Carry?
2. Would this rule prevent you from attending an event for forum members?
Last edited by TexasTornado on Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"I can see it's dangerous for you, but if the government trusts me, maybe you could."
Looks illegal to prohibit open carry based on this from 30.07...
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder openly carries the handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Edit: Oops. I was thinking it was a government sponsored event, but it's actually a non profit organization.
Last edited by SoConfused on Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. - John Adams
Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.
It doesn't matter if it's a private organization or not because it's city property. The signs would be unenforceable. It also does not meet the criteria of an amusement park.
"I can see it's dangerous for you, but if the government trusts me, maybe you could."
Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.
It doesn't matter if it's a private organization or not because it's city property. The signs would be unenforceable. It also does not meet the criteria of an amusement park.
That's how I read it. Maybe there will be a test case a commin.
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TT has it right. It was a fight to make the State Fair allow CC. It looks like it will take another fight before they allow OC.
At least this time the AG can be brought in. The fight should be over faster.
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. - John Adams
Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.
It doesn't matter if it's a private organization or not because it's city property. The signs would be unenforceable. It also does not meet the criteria of an amusement park.
Unfortunately, it won't be city property. The State Fair of Texas leases the land every year, effectively making it private property for the duration of the fair.
Untrue. In fact, there was a news story just the other day that they're thinking about turning over operation of the fair to a private organization. Either way, it won't make any difference. It's government property no matter who it's leased to.
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. - John Adams
