If you go with the 290, make sure it is the P290RS... they had problems initially. The trigger isn't bad on mine. It is long, but smooth... very revolver like. Much better than my Kel Tec PF9.bmwrdr wrote:Those two models are very similar in size. I held the P290 in my hand but at the time there was no extended magazine available for it and the trigger pull wasn't my deal either. The price is acceptable and I remember there was a deakl at grabagun.com where they supplemented a P290 for free if you buy a certain P229 model in .40 cal.cyphertext wrote:Sig P290RS if you prefer a long, DOA trigger vs. the single action in the P938... the 290RS is cheaper too!
Pocket Gun Debate: LC9 or Curve
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'Hate' is a bit harsh for my view on Taurus semi-autos. I'm not a fan of Taurus or Ruger semi's, but both make good revolvers in my opinion. Just that, though, opinion. And opinions are like techniques & 'noses'; everyone has one, & most of them 'smell'.nyj wrote:AJSully421 wrote:If there is ever a choice between anything else and something from Taurus... the answer is almost always going to be whatever is NOT from Taurus.
Please do share your awful experiences with Taurus. Or are you just joining the blind bandwagon for hating on them?
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Belly band will likely work for both your regular carry & 'gym shorts' carry, so that would be a good investment. Once you become comfortable with drawing from the belly band you will have a consistent method of carry/draw technique regardless of what you're wearing. Just remember to build up your muscle memory of where you're carrying the gun so in a crisis you don't attempt to draw from wherever you have been accustomed to drawing from (ie, belly band vs where you carry now).TexasComputerDude wrote:Really great information! I'm looking at the sig now and the nano, along with the previous 2.
Decisions decisions lol.
I was thinking of getting a bellyband for my regular carry, but still tough choice.
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Has anyone ever shot a curve?
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I shot both the curve and lc9. I went with the lc9 with the laser for my first cc. I felt the curve had more recoil than the lc9. But that is just me. I am leaning towards a Taurus for my next purchase.
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I'd recommend staying away from an LC-9 unless you're going with the striker trigger'ed LC-9s or LC-9sPro, both of which get away from the original's heavy and long trigger pull.
My primary CC right now is an LC-9s with a Viridian R5 Reactor green laser on the front trigger guard. The Reactor series of lasers are new, and are able to control the laser's on/off cycle through the use of a holster mounted magnet, so that when you holster the gun, the laser goes darl. But, upon drawing the gun from the holster, your laser is on, and pointing where the bullet is going to go if you pull the trigger.
I wasn't too convinced about that system at first. The LC-9s came with a pocket holster, which I didn't use much as I wanted it as an IWB rig, so I got a holster that did not have the integral magnet in it, which promptly helped to run the batteries down. Fast forward to last Spring when I bought a Comp-Tac Infidel holster with the magnet pre-installed, and my opinion has swung 180 degrees. I hardly wear anything else, these days.
I haven't had the opportunity to fondle or shoot the Curve, yet, but have no doubt it probably is OK. But I do know the LC-9s with R5 Reactor combo in a magnet equipped holster, is very comfortable, and I know I need not worry about excessive battery drain if I forget to turn the laser off.
My primary CC right now is an LC-9s with a Viridian R5 Reactor green laser on the front trigger guard. The Reactor series of lasers are new, and are able to control the laser's on/off cycle through the use of a holster mounted magnet, so that when you holster the gun, the laser goes darl. But, upon drawing the gun from the holster, your laser is on, and pointing where the bullet is going to go if you pull the trigger.
I wasn't too convinced about that system at first. The LC-9s came with a pocket holster, which I didn't use much as I wanted it as an IWB rig, so I got a holster that did not have the integral magnet in it, which promptly helped to run the batteries down. Fast forward to last Spring when I bought a Comp-Tac Infidel holster with the magnet pre-installed, and my opinion has swung 180 degrees. I hardly wear anything else, these days.
I haven't had the opportunity to fondle or shoot the Curve, yet, but have no doubt it probably is OK. But I do know the LC-9s with R5 Reactor combo in a magnet equipped holster, is very comfortable, and I know I need not worry about excessive battery drain if I forget to turn the laser off.
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I'd second the TCP. I have one for occasional carry when I just can't carry my G19. Never had an issue with it.Lumberjack98 wrote:I know this is the general consensus. However, I have been pleased with several pistols from Taurus, including the TCP. You may also consider that pistol.AJSully421 wrote:If there is ever a choice between anything else and something from Taurus... the answer is almost always going to be whatever is NOT from Taurus.
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I initially bought a PM9 for pocket carry, but I never really cared for it. I found it very uncomfortable to shoot, and I was never very accurate with it. I recently replaced it with a P938 which I like much better. It's much more fun to shoot and more accurate to boot!bmwrdr wrote:The SIG P938 is perhaps the better choice of all at this point in time in my opinion. You need to accommodate to single action though.surferdaddy wrote:At one time or another; I've owned just about all pocket pistols. In my searching for the grass is greener gun I have finally arrived at the sig p938. Good caliber, adequate capacity, exquisite quality and more shoot-able than a gun its size should be. And I mean to say, it is small in all the right places. Imo, finest of the breed.
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I too had a little Kahr and agree that at least for me, the 938 is way more fun to shoot. Still have the pm9 but it is on semipermanent loan to a friend who loves it.TrueFlog wrote:I initially bought a PM9 for pocket carry, but I never really cared for it. I found it very uncomfortable to shoot, and I was never very accurate with it. I recently replaced it with a P938 which I like much better. It's much more fun to shoot and more accurate to boot!bmwrdr wrote:The SIG P938 is perhaps the better choice of all at this point in time in my opinion. You need to accommodate to single action though.surferdaddy wrote:At one time or another; I've owned just about all pocket pistols. In my searching for the grass is greener gun I have finally arrived at the sig p938. Good caliber, adequate capacity, exquisite quality and more shoot-able than a gun its size should be. And I mean to say, it is small in all the right places. Imo, finest of the breed.
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nyj wrote:AJSully421 wrote:If there is ever a choice between anything else and something from Taurus... the answer is almost always going to be whatever is NOT from Taurus.
Please do share your awful experiences with Taurus. Or are you just joining the blind bandwagon for hating on them?
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No blind hate here. My Great uncle has a 7 shot taurus revolver that he swears by. I'd rather shoot something NOT from Taurus.
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Accuracy of PM9s is not a problem. The gun itself is very accurate. Accuracy issues with the PM9 probably are centered around the trigger pull being different than most of the modern striker-fired pistols. Longer stroke (akin to DA), but light. Tendency is to react prior to the round going off. The 938 or a 1911 with a short light trigger is going to mask that. That's a good thing really if it helps perceived accuracy. You've got to be comfortable with what you carry and you've got to be able to hit what you want to hit to be comfortable. I shoot the PM9 really well and find it unbelievably accurate for such a short barrel. Watch Hickok45 shoot it out at distance.
If you like .45, Kahr makes a PM45. But again, you'd have to like the trigger. The PM45 is a little bigger than the PM9. It's a touch wider than the LC9.
The Sig 938 is definitely smaller than the Shield, Glock 43, Kahrs, and XDs. I find the Shield/Glock 43 a little bigger than I like for pocket carry, but this will be highly subjective.
If you like .45, Kahr makes a PM45. But again, you'd have to like the trigger. The PM45 is a little bigger than the PM9. It's a touch wider than the LC9.
The Sig 938 is definitely smaller than the Shield, Glock 43, Kahrs, and XDs. I find the Shield/Glock 43 a little bigger than I like for pocket carry, but this will be highly subjective.
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Have had no problems with my Taurus TCP 380. I don't love shooting it, but it works very well. It got a very strong endorsement from Tom Estep during the CHL 100 course. He had one on him and praised it for a very even trigger pull.
For those discussing Taurus semi-auto's, I really like my Taurus PT840. It fires great in single action and performs well in double action also. For it's single-action/double action features I prefer it to my Glock. However, if you buy one of the early production offerings I'd watch out for it. Seems like it had some issues in the first year it was released with the breakdown spring being weak, and the slide stop not working consistently. Mine has had no issues.
For those discussing Taurus semi-auto's, I really like my Taurus PT840. It fires great in single action and performs well in double action also. For it's single-action/double action features I prefer it to my Glock. However, if you buy one of the early production offerings I'd watch out for it. Seems like it had some issues in the first year it was released with the breakdown spring being weak, and the slide stop not working consistently. Mine has had no issues.
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You know the problem with all of these threads is like asking people what ice cream they like:
Some swear by vanilla
Some swear by chocolate
Some swear by strawberry
Some swear by butter pecan, or this or that or the other, the list goes on ad infinitum, ad nauseum
Some hate this, some hate that, some hate ice cream in any form and counsel complete avoidance, some hate everything
What do such answers prove? Absolutely nothing. They're a complete waste of time.
Now to ask the same question of a tool that will be used to protect your life? Still proves nothing. And IMHO, it's dangerous. It's not the tool that's important, but the carpenter. And may I suggest a far better question to ask?
What gun works best for ME?
Go to a range and rent several and see what feels best and shoots best. That one answer is worth your life. Everything else is worth exactly what you paid for it.
Some swear by vanilla
Some swear by chocolate
Some swear by strawberry
Some swear by butter pecan, or this or that or the other, the list goes on ad infinitum, ad nauseum
Some hate this, some hate that, some hate ice cream in any form and counsel complete avoidance, some hate everything
What do such answers prove? Absolutely nothing. They're a complete waste of time.
Now to ask the same question of a tool that will be used to protect your life? Still proves nothing. And IMHO, it's dangerous. It's not the tool that's important, but the carpenter. And may I suggest a far better question to ask?
What gun works best for ME?
Go to a range and rent several and see what feels best and shoots best. That one answer is worth your life. Everything else is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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with ShootDontTalk regarding the hardware. What feels and shoots best for YOU is important, because that means you may actually spend time putting some rounds down range and becoming proficient in using it. The real important factor is not the hardware, though, as much as the software. Training is every bit as important as the hardware -- including drawing from a holster and shooting, engaging multiple targets, using cover and concealment, performing magazine changes, moving and shooting, shooting moving targets, etc..., as is mental preparation.
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Re: Pocket Gun Debate: LC9 or Curve
Your somewhat correct. However I think a lot was learned from this thread. For instance, i had no idea that the lc9s could be equiped with a magnetically activated laser or that such a thing existed. I value the opinions of many on this board and i find they always lead me down avenues i hadnt considered.ShootDontTalk wrote:You know the problem with all of these threads is like asking people what ice cream they like:
Some swear by vanilla
Some swear by chocolate
Some swear by strawberry
Some swear by butter pecan, or this or that or the other, the list goes on ad infinitum, ad nauseum
Some hate this, some hate that, some hate ice cream in any form and counsel complete avoidance, some hate everything
What do such answers prove? Absolutely nothing. They're a complete waste of time.
Now to ask the same question of a tool that will be used to protect your life? Still proves nothing. And IMHO, it's dangerous. It's not the tool that's important, but the carpenter. And may I suggest a far better question to ask?
What gun works best for ME?
Go to a range and rent several and see what feels best and shoots best. That one answer is worth your life. Everything else is worth exactly what you paid for it.
I am not a gun expert. I train as much as i can and know my carry weapons inside and out but sometimes its nice to have a discussion to help figure out what might work for me.
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