Nerdy 14 year old brings homemade clock to school and is arrested

[Right2Carry]

This is how the waters get tested and the frog ends up getting boiled. There is more here than meets the eye. Common sense tells you not to bring that thing to school. Another agenda is in play here!

[goose]

I'll even bite that there were other agendas at play. Let's say that were true. Then the school and the LEO on site got played. Badly.

Let's review that scenario: Boy named Mohamed brings some wires and circuit boards to school to get a reaction. Teachers and officials realize that it isn't a bomb so they don't call the bomb squad. Instead they call in the parents and explain six ways to Sunday why this was a poor choice of show-and-tell material and ask them all to not do it again.

Or option B, instead of calling the parents, put him in handcuffs and get that picture out to social media as quickly as possible.

Outside agendas: They got played and look less than stellar.
No outside agendas: They played themselves and look less than stellar.

[Excaliber]

The boy won fame and respect and the Irving PD and ISD got shamed.

Fleeting fame and no respect at all. Yes, the school got shamed, but the police did what they should have, and after talking to a friend from Irving, I suspect even more so that this was a blatant setup.

We're not alone in our suspicions.

Check out the article here on Ahmed's father's past stunts.

[JALLEN]

A former EOD tech I worked with posted this, you experts can brush up on your IED ID.
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=569A8151

Very droll!

There is a huge difference between looking at pictures, and looking at actual devices sitting on the desk in front of you.

I have to say I got a little chuckle out of that because all your comments were based off of you looking at a picture.

Actually, my comments were mostly made before any pictures of the " device" were promulgated. Moreover, the idiots who created this ruckus HAD the device sitting in front of them when they acted, if that's what you want to call it. It wasn't ominous enough to have students and staff evacuated on the double.

The device that brought down the Pan Am flight in Scotland was determined to be explosives packed into an ordinary boom box, detonated by some sort of pressure timing device. My impression is that a great many IEDs are fashioned from ordinary cellphones, wired to explosives. Are we now to ban computers, laptops, tablets, cellphones and all electronic devices, maybe set up a TSA like agency at every school to search the chirren entering and departing, like a bunch of monkeys examining a baritone sax, with elaborate rules about what can be brought onto school grounds?

I think we would be far, far better off to close the public schools and send kids to privately organized outfits where learning is the primary goal, not these various notions of political correctness.

[VMI77]

My question is who builds a clock that looks like that and then carries it to school in a briefcase type container? is it really because of his name or because of the real threats we face in our society today?
I would be awful suspicious that it was intentionally built to look like a bomb. It sounds like there are some explosive experts here since there are a lot of people that can tell by the one or two pictures they have released that it was "obviously" not a bomb. Well, guess what? I was EOD in the 90's and I'm not so quick to make that call even though I was trained to render safe real IED's. You guys have no idea what other intelligence the PD had. When I was in the bomb squad we got briefings from the FBI on actual explosives that they were finding and general intelligence that the public had no way of knowing. Our society has changed and even my counterparts today in EOD have an entirely different job scope due to the proliferation of IED use from our enemies. Perhaps this design was real similar to real IED's they have seen and been briefed on. Perhaps they were just too PC to ignore it and now they realize they could have handled it better. What if they didn't scrutinize and it turned out to be real? There are too many what ifs to tell what was going on and make the calls from our keyboards yet we still do.

No matter how it was built or what the intentions were in building it, the fact remains that no one actually responded as if they really believed there was a possible bomb. So, either the response was colossally negligent or the claim by those in authority they thought they could be dealing with a bomb is false. Either way it seems to me that there are some people in authority who either don't have the smarts or the integrity their positions should demand.

[Steve_M]

Have you seen the whole 'device'? Up until today, all I have seen is the circuit board with transistors and some wires leading from it. Most people would know that it's not a bomb. These new pictures are of the circuit board and a large LCD display mounted in what looks like a small briefcase. I seem to recall some movie with similar looking devices that were bombs. The teacher know that other people would be concerned if they saw it. That should tell you something. I think that teacher should have said something like "Cool Idea but it might unnerve some people. Leave it here with me and come get it before you go home. It might be a good idea not to bring it back"

Stories with pics:

http://toprightnews.com/this-meme-nails ... -arrested/

http://news.yahoo.com/latest-no-charges ... 49285.html

[Steve_M]

I guess my reply has kind of been covered. That's what happens when you have one too many mixed drinks, start a reply and then discover it later realizing you haven't hit 'Submit'. Yes I realize it's 10:33 in the morning. I work nights.

[goose]

I guess my reply has kind of been covered. That's what happens when you have one too many mixed drinks, start a reply and then discover it later realizing you haven't hit 'Submit'. Yes I realize it's 10:33 in the morning. I work nights.

I am often (more than I care to admit) getting irate at a kid or spouse for not replying back to a text................that I later realize I forgot to hit "send" on.

[Beiruty]

This is how the waters get tested and the frog ends up getting boiled. There is more here than meets the eye. Common sense tells you not to bring that thing to school. Another agenda is in play here!

Be realistic. He is just 14 yrs old US kid, no malicious connections with anyone else.

[EEllis]

A former EOD tech I worked with posted this, you experts can brush up on your IED ID.
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=569A8151

Very droll!

There is a huge difference between looking at pictures, and looking at actual devices sitting on the desk in front of you.

I have to say I got a little chuckle out of that because all your comments were based off of you looking at a picture.

Actually, my comments were mostly made before any pictures of the " device" were promulgated. Moreover, the idiots who created this ruckus HAD the device sitting in front of them when they acted, if that's what you want to call it. It wasn't ominous enough to have students and staff evacuated on the double.

The device that brought down the Pan Am flight in Scotland was determined to be explosives packed into an ordinary boom box, detonated by some sort of pressure timing device. My impression is that a great many IEDs are fashioned from ordinary cellphones, wired to explosives. Are we now to ban computers, laptops, tablets, cellphones and all electronic devices, maybe set up a TSA like agency at every school to search the chirren entering and departing, like a bunch of monkeys examining a baritone sax, with elaborate rules about what can be brought onto school grounds?

I think we would be far, far better off to close the public schools and send kids to privately organized outfits where learning is the primary goal, not these various notions of political correctness.

So you condemned the adults involved because they thought the clock looked like a bomb and you had no idea what it looked like? Since bombs can look like ordinary items the fact that the clock looks like a bomb should mean nothing? Ok, I don't get your point but it's not something I'm going to get worked up over. Honestly, and I'm not trying to say this is anyone in particular here, but it seems people just enjoy getting worked up. Certainly I have to wonder why the kid was arrested, tho one article seemed to indicate that it seemed like the kid was not acting like someone who just brought a science project to school not realizing the possible consequences, but the instant and absolute certainty that there was no basis for any concern smacks of either faux outrage or naivety.

[EEllis]

This is how the waters get tested and the frog ends up getting boiled. There is more here than meets the eye. Common sense tells you not to bring that thing to school. Another agenda is in play here!

Be realistic. He is just 14 yrs old US kid, no malicious connections with anyone else.

Well his father does have connections and people have used their kids to advance agendas before so to totally dismiss it is a bit disingenuous. Fior myself I tend to reserve judgement rather than assume some type of conspiracy.

[goose]

...but the instant and absolute certainty that there was no basis for any concern smacks of either faux outrage or naivety.

Is this directed at the faculty that chose not to call the bomb squad instantly? They were pretty certain there was no basis for any concern. Maybe they were naive?

[EEllis]

...but the instant and absolute certainty that there was no basis for any concern smacks of either faux outrage or naivety.

Is this directed at the faculty that chose not to call the bomb squad instantly? They were pretty certain there was no basis for any concern. Maybe they were naive?

No my understanding is they thought it was a Faux bomb and called on that basis. That would still be a crime and should be reported. The thing I find interesting is that people seem to assume that from a quick news blurb that it's obvious everyone was wrong but that they know better. The naivety I mention is from the belief that in this day and age you can show a device that looks like it could be a bomb and not have people react.

[Texas_Blaze]

Take it through airport security.

[The Annoyed Man]

Did it look like this: