Open carry in Ohio didn't go well

[mojo84]

Complete idiots.

[jmra]

I don't understand. They were stopped by police and then sent on their way. Then the media goes around the neighborhood showing people the video from YouTube after which the police arrest them.
Don't get me wrong, I think these kids are idiot thugs, but why were they arrested? If they weren't legally able to have the guns why weren't they arrested when first encountered by police?

[RPBrown]

I don't understand. They were stopped by police and then sent on their way. Then the media goes around the neighborhood showing people the video from YouTube after which the police arrest them.
Don't get me wrong, I think these kids are idiot thugs, but why were they arrested? If they weren't legally able to have the guns why weren't they arrested when first encountered by police?

[rotor]

I don't understand. They were stopped by police and then sent on their way. Then the media goes around the neighborhood showing people the video from YouTube after which the police arrest them.
Don't get me wrong, I think these kids are idiot thugs, but why were they arrested? If they weren't legally able to have the guns why weren't they arrested when first encountered by police?

Me too.

[EEllis]

I don't understand. They were stopped by police and then sent on their way. Then the media goes around the neighborhood showing people the video from YouTube after which the police arrest them.
Don't get me wrong, I think these kids are idiot thugs, but why were they arrested? If they weren't legally able to have the guns why weren't they arrested when first encountered by police?

Police conducted a further investigation after the video was posted online, and the 23-year-old Deboard was arrested and charged with menacing by stalking and violation of a protection order.

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It appears that the arrests and warrants were not directly related to their little OC parade. They wanted peoples attention and it looks like they got it from the cops.

[mojo84]

I didn't understand that either.

[Jumping Frog]

I don't understand. ... why were they arrested?

They weren't arrested for the guns, they were charged with O.R.C. 2903.21 Aggravated Menacing.

Open carry is legal in Ohio. Point a gun at or near someone, or give them reasonable cause to believe that you are threatening them with a firearm, and Aggravated Menacing is the correct charge.

The where is an old inner suburb of Cincinnati that was primarily white 40-50 years ago. Now it is heavily black. They were walking around with cruddy muzzle control, a bad attitude, and constantly spouting the "N" word.

Guess the police decided they failed the attitude test and this charge is the closest charge to utilize.

I've known of multiple Ohio CHL's who were involved in road rage type incidents. Picking up your handgun and waving it or showing it to the other party is construed as a threat. They were convicted of Aggravated Menacing.

2903.21 Aggravated menacing.

(A) No person shall knowingly cause another to believe that the offender will cause serious physical harm to the person or property of the other person, the other person's unborn, or a member of the other person's immediate family.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of aggravated menacing. Except as otherwise provided in this division, aggravated menacing is a misdemeanor of the first degree. If the victim of the offense is an officer or employee of a public children services agency or a private child placing agency and the offense relates to the officer's or employee's performance or anticipated performance of official responsibilities or duties, aggravated menacing is a felony of the fifth degree or, if the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to an offense of violence, the victim of that prior offense was an officer or employee of a public children services agency or private child placing agency, and that prior offense related to the officer's or employee's performance or anticipated performance of official responsibilities or duties, a felony of the fourth degree.

[mojo84]

So, why were they not arrested at the time and then arrested later?

[iAmSam]

So, why were they not arrested at the time and then arrested later?

I have a theory but I don't want to violate the new Rule Nine.

[Jumping Frog]

So, why were they not arrested at the time and then arrested later?

One possibility is the police didn't witness Aggravated Menacing at the time, but review of video had the required elements of the crime.

The other possibility is a craven response to a full-throated roar from the Lewinsky Media arm of the Democratic Party to "DO SOMETHING".

[EEllis]

So, why were they not arrested at the time and then arrested later?

Well one was arrested for violation of a restraining order so I would assume the person who had the restraining order called and said something about it. That isn't something a a cop who sees the four stooges out for a stroll would automatically know.

[Beiruty]

Not sure about Ohio laws, but in Texas I thought possessing a firearm violated a protection order.

Open Carry for CHLer is possible next year.

[b322da]

So, why were they not arrested at the time and then arrested later?

One possibility is the police didn't witness Aggravated Menacing at the time, but review of video had the required elements of the crime...

I would think that this is not unlikely. Were I a DA I would be satisfied to show this video to a jury as offering proof of guilt. I would also be happy to do so after viewing the attitude of the carriers.

Jim