Oh NO! They're coming to Texas!

[AEA]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/24/re ... udy-finds/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The long-running exodus from the cash-strapped Golden State is an old story, but a new study by The Manhattan Institute finds that the biggest beneficiaries of the population drain are Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Georgia and South Carolina.

Wonder how long it will take them to pass a "Waiting Period" and "Compliant/Non-Compliant" list here for US!

No offense meant towards our current ex-Californians living here in the Great State of Texas.

My point being......they voted for the mess they're in and moving to Texas to get away from it? Or, moving to start the same thing here? Have they really learned their lesson?

[JALLEN]

I'm not an ex-Californian, but a Texan ex-pat living in California. Don't assume facts not in evidence, that those leaving voted for this.

The reality of elections here is that the eastern rural areas, the central valley, and such like areas are outnumbered by the LA/Bay area voters. The rest of the state is semi-normal. Statewide, forget about it, you end up with Feinstein, Boxer, Moonbeam and the others.

I have had the feeling for many years that within two generations, everyone in California will be either working for, or standing in line at, DMV or the Welfare Office, nothing else.

[Heartland Patriot]

I'm not an ex-Californian, but a Texan ex-pat living in California. Don't assume facts not in evidence, that those leaving voted for this.

The reality of elections here is that the eastern rural areas, the central valley, and such like areas are outnumbered by the LA/Bay area voters. The rest of the state is semi-normal. Statewide, forget about it, you end up with Feinstein, Boxer, Moonbeam and the others.

I have had the feeling for many years that within two generations, everyone in California will be either working for, or standing in line at, DMV or the Welfare Office, nothing else.

As a born-and-raised Texan who spent half of his military career in NorCal, I agree with JALLEN. I always tell people there are THREE Californias: the Greater Los Angeles area, the Bay Area, and the rest of the state...the VAST bulk of the stupidity and plain old bureaucratic mess comes from the hard-core liberal Democrat areas of LA and the Bay...not that there aren't good folks in those areas, or that there aren't liberals in other parts of the state, but just in general, I think what JALLEN said is reasonably accurate. It sickens me that the liberals have ruined what used to be such a great place. There are lots of beautiful parts of the state and I did enjoy some of the things there (even had a good shooting range, the Yolo Sportsmens Club, near me), but the bad simply outweighed the good, for me. So, as soon as I "retired", I lit out for Texas. I just hope that the folks leaving the state understand WHY they shouldn't bring that mess with them.

[jimlongley]

I'm not an ex-Californian, but a Texan ex-pat living in California. Don't assume facts not in evidence, that those leaving voted for this.

The reality of elections here is that the eastern rural areas, the central valley, and such like areas are outnumbered by the LA/Bay area voters. The rest of the state is semi-normal. Statewide, forget about it, you end up with Feinstein, Boxer, Moonbeam and the others.

I have had the feeling for many years that within two generations, everyone in California will be either working for, or standing in line at, DMV or the Welfare Office, nothing else.

Just like NY State, where the gun owning, hunting, and fairly conservative majority of the land mass of the state is ruled by the NY City megalopolis and Bloomberg's ilk.

[ShepherdTX]

Speaking as someone who came from California where I was born and where I lived right up until moving to TX, I think that most people here are not anti-Californian. More like anti turn-Texas-into-California. Personally I came here to become a Texan and integrate into the culture, not to turn Texas into California.

Just a side story to give an idea how bad it is at least in terms of gun control mindset: Prior to moving to TX, the last gun I shot was a .22 in Boy Scouts over 20 years ago. That means I never even touched a gun all my adult life until arriving in Texas. Not only that, but when I moved here I was shocked to find out one could simply walk into a gun shop, buy something like an AR-15 and then walk out with it the same day. All along I always thought that the 10 day waiting period was some sort of federal law and that there was no chance of anyone owning an "assault rifle" without going through some major hoops. That's when I realized just how deeply the anti-gun mindset runs in CA and I never want to go back, except to visit my family of course.

Obviously, it's not where you were born or where you came from that makes you a Texan, but what you do when you get there. Only a handful of defenders at the Alamo were actually born in Texas. I doubt anyone thinks that the rest didn't count because of where they came from.

[Bob in Big D]

I moved to Texas from Cailf. In 1984 to start a business and have good schools for my children.

I don't think many liberals survive here very long!

[Texas Dan Mosby]

Coming to Texas?

I take it you haven't been to Austin.

[G26ster]

Coming to Texas?

I take it you haven't been to Austin.

True, but I don't think that the liberals in Austin were necessarily all born elsewhere and moved here after establishing their liberal principles. I think we built them in our schools and universities. I believe that is where the issue lies. I also don't believe that much of the liberal legislators were born elsewhere. Also, Texas used to be a firm blue state, now it is a purple/red state. Kind of casts doubt on the theory that folks moving here from out of state are changing the state to be more liberal. Just MHO.

[92f-fan]

Just like NY State, where the gun owning, hunting, and fairly conservative majority of the land mass of the state is ruled by the NY City megalopolis and Bloomberg's ilk.

Exactly

[fickman]

In northeast Tarrant county, native Texans are outnumbered.

They started moving en masse from the northeast and CA during the housing bubble when they could sell a 40 year old 2 bedroom house for $1 million and come to Southlake or Colleyville and live like kings in a 5,500 sq. ft. McMansion on an acre of land for $650,000.

Makes sense to me. Even if they don't assimilate, their kids usually will!

[bizarrenormality]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/24/re ... udy-finds/

The long-running exodus from the cash-strapped Golden State is an old story, but a new study by The Manhattan Institute finds that the biggest beneficiaries of the population drain are Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Georgia and South Carolina.

Wonder how long it will take them to pass a "Waiting Period" and "Compliant/Non-Compliant" list here for US!

No offense meant towards our current ex-Californians living here in the Great State of Texas.

My point being......they voted for the mess they're in and moving to Texas to get away from it? Or, moving to start the same thing here? Have they really learned their lesson?

If they acclimate and adopt Texas values, then I welcome them.

If they try to californicate Texas like they did Oregon, then send them back to Kalistan in peace. Or in pieces if necessary.

[JALLEN]

Coming to Texas?

I take it you haven't been to Austin.

True, but I don't think that the liberals in Austin were necessarily all born elsewhere and moved here after establishing their liberal principles. I think we built them in our schools and universities. I believe that is where the issue lies. I also don't believe that much of the liberal legislators were born elsewhere. Also, Texas used to be a firm blue state, now it is a purple/red state. Kind of casts doubt on the theory that folks moving here from out of state are changing the state to be more liberal. Just MHO.

The hippies in Austin ain't nuthin compared to the doper dirtballs in Los Angeles!

Texas was a bastion of Democrat Party rule, like all of the old Confederacy inflicted with Reconstruction. I remember when the County Republicans all met in one fellow's living room! Most Dem's were fairly conservative, nonetheless. LBJ was both liberal and conservative as the need arose, very flexible! Ralph Yarborough was much more liberal.

One day, when I was a junior high kid, a short well-dressed man appeared in my dad's business, one of his old fraternity brothers. He was running for the Senate seat held by LBJ. We ended up introducing him around town, putting on a reception, IIRC. etc. He didn't win that election, but when LBJ resigned, having won both Senate and Veep, this man ran again and this time John Tower won... the first Republican elected to the Senate from Texas since Reconstruction, IIRC. Since then Republicans have swept most of Texas, it seems to me, other than small enclaves of hippies in Austin, many of the Latinos in San Antonio etc.

[cheezit]

trust me on this.. the Libs in Cali that are moving here dont want your guns... They all have plenty of there own.

[The Annoyed Man]

I'm not an ex-Californian, but a Texan ex-pat living in California. Don't assume facts not in evidence, that those leaving voted for this.

The reality of elections here is that the eastern rural areas, the central valley, and such like areas are outnumbered by the LA/Bay area voters. The rest of the state is semi-normal. Statewide, forget about it, you end up with Feinstein, Boxer, Moonbeam and the others.

I have had the feeling for many years that within two generations, everyone in California will be either working for, or standing in line at, DMV or the Welfare Office, nothing else.

As a born-and-raised Texan who spent half of his military career in NorCal, I agree with JALLEN. I always tell people there are THREE Californias: the Greater Los Angeles area, the Bay Area, and the rest of the state...the VAST bulk of the stupidity and plain old bureaucratic mess comes from the hard-core liberal Democrat areas of LA and the Bay...not that there aren't good folks in those areas, or that there aren't liberals in other parts of the state, but just in general, I think what JALLEN said is reasonably accurate. It sickens me that the liberals have ruined what used to be such a great place. There are lots of beautiful parts of the state and I did enjoy some of the things there (even had a good shooting range, the Yolo Sportsmens Club, near me), but the bad simply outweighed the good, for me. So, as soon as I "retired", I lit out for Texas. I just hope that the folks leaving the state understand WHY they shouldn't bring that mess with them.

Don't forget San Bernardino. It may be the largest county in the United States, but the bulk of its population is concentrated in its cities, which tend to vote whomever La Raza supports.

The upside to the migration of 2006—the first year of BIG exodus from California to Texas—y'all got me.