obama a Kenyan?

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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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fickman wrote:I invoked the imagery of a military coup to reference the absurdity of those who are hanging their hat on the birther movement.

As one Constitutional scholar on Fox News said a few years ago, even if he doesn't fit the criteria for the natural-born citizen, there is no provision on how that clause would be enforced. So, I jumped past B-Y in the logic train and basically said, "Even IF he wasn't born in the U.S. - who's going to remove him? The Secret Service? The military? Armed Congressmen?"

I was drawing a stronger parallel to Elizabeth Warren, who lied about her heritage to gain advantages in school and during her early career.

The point was that this article is NOT intended to bolster evidence for birthers. It's to show the disingenuous nature of BHO, his handlers, and his marketing engine.

He's an opportunistic chameleon.
:iagree: This all day long.

It's not about his birth or it's location it's all about him being a casual liar.

“Barack said, ‘I’m sorry you don’t see it the way I do. Do you know what your problem is?’ And I said, ‘No, what’s my problem?’ And he said, ‘You have to tell the truth.’ I said, ‘That’s a good problem to have. That’s a good problem for all preachers to have. That’s why I could never be a politician.' " - Jeremiah Wright
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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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Kabong30 wrote:It's not about his birth or it's location it's all about him being a casual liar.
This comment has value. I don't condone dishonesty, but I'm trying to think back to the last president who attempted to be completely honest in all aspects of his life. Jimmy Carter comes to mind, but even at the time, he wasn't completely straight with the public either. In any event, the current alternative can't claim to be honest. His bio has more twists in it than a state fair pretzel. Really now, with reference to 2A issues, this guy as governor could talk out of both sides of his mouth and not even move his head.

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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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gdanaher wrote:I attempted to clarify it to speedsix. Read the thread. As for me, I mean no disrespect to you. I too have seen the business end of the military, though in my case it involved at Uzi at the time.

...I didn't need it clarified at all...English is my first language...and I DID read the thread...
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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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I still pray that it's found he violated the basic necessities of the office he holds, so that everything he has signed is instantly null and void.
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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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The Annoyed Man wrote:
The Mad Moderate wrote:
fickman wrote: The truth won't change the 2008 election. It shouldn't be harped on in the hope that the military or some other entity forcibly removes him.
So you're calling for a military coup?
Jesus wept! How on earth can a sentient human being draw that conclusion out of fickman's statement—which was itself a call for rationalism?

Your screen name is a misnomer. You're not a moderate. Moderates don't deliberately twist the words of another person into something other than their obvious face value. Aren't you even remotely ashamed of what you say sometimes?
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Easy people I misread it, I read it as "It should be harped on" instead of "It shouldn't". My mistake, I was not trying to twist his words I only read them wrong . And no I am not ashamed of anything I say nor should I be, I would expect better from you TAM.
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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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...bad thing about words...we can only respond to the ones you use... :roll:
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Re: obama a Kenyan?

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The Mad Moderate wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
The Mad Moderate wrote:
fickman wrote: The truth won't change the 2008 election. It shouldn't be harped on in the hope that the military or some other entity forcibly removes him.
So you're calling for a military coup?
Jesus wept! How on earth can a sentient human being draw that conclusion out of fickman's statement—which was itself a call for rationalism?

Your screen name is a misnomer. You're not a moderate. Moderates don't deliberately twist the words of another person into something other than their obvious face value. Aren't you even remotely ashamed of what you say sometimes?
:roll:
Easy people I misread it, I read it as "It should be harped on" instead of "It shouldn't". My mistake, I was not trying to twist his words I only read them wrong . And no I am not ashamed of anything I say nor should I be, I would expect better from you TAM.
I can only respond to what you wrote. If it was a mistake on your part, I can understand that; but can you not also see how I could have easily taken your words at face value and had the reaction I did? If that mistake had been your actual sentiment, then those would have been shameful words. I'm glad that it isn't how you feel.
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