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The Annoyed Man wrote:They just like the soundbite of "Stand Your Ground," and they are going to use that soundbite to bludgeon us with it... because that is what they do.
The news people don't understand the law, they are not objective and don't report the facts. They aren't very logical and they prey on emotions.
Time for a rant.RockingRook wrote:If anything threatens our right to bear arms is a few more loons doing this and a few more that defend his actions. We will then deserve to lose
our rights because we as a society have proven that we just cannot handle it.
Wow. Before you start accusing me of being like Zimmerman, perhaps you'd like to check out my posts in this thread:RockingRook wrote:Grow up!! We are not supposed to be walking the streets armed looking for people to shoot or crimes to solve.
It is people like Zimmerman and Novaman that will eventually take away our rights and ruin our way of life.
All it takes is the Supreme Court to overturn the 2nd Amendment then you can go to the hills with the rest of your supporters.
I have read a few posts here to give me the belief that many think what was done was murder. A 17 yo is dead for apparently no reason
and the jackass is still walking around without anything being done.
Grow up!!
Two points of contention, in my personal opinion. First off, when talking about given rights and invoking the Almighty, I always capitalize it like so: God. I haven't been much of a church-goer in a long time, but I still try to give respect where I believe it to be due. Second, in reference to the highlighted text in your reply to 74novaman, the government CANNOT take away God given rights. They CAN block you from exercising said rights, though. The distinction is very important, even if the effect is the same. Blocking a God given right puts THEM in the wrong, not the individual.RockingRook wrote:Again, grow up!! Maybe god gave you your rights but the govt. can take them away.
I know they will have to pry open your cold dead hands. Right!!
That and all the other garbage that people say. It may sound good but it is all hogwash.
They had better get on the stick in Sanford, Florida and do something. I forgot it may not be
Sanford it may be Miami or maybe not even Florida. You know how the news is!!
This has been going on now for a few days it was not just breaking news 10 min ago.
Exactly!!gdanaher wrote:What I am amazed about is that it took roughly 3 weeks for this to eventually hit the fan, and there has been minimal unrest. Restraint is a good thing. There is too much misinformation being shared on all sides. Far better for the local and state police to investigate thoroughly and make a recommendation, but I've heard the 911 tapes, heard the operator tell Z to cool it, the kid begging for his life, and then the police finding no reason to arrest.....where's Andy when you need him. A little objective common sense would be helpful.
It is my right not to believe what you believe in. To me god will always be god. If that is pro fain then so be it!!Heartland Patriot wrote:Two points of contention, in my personal opinion. First off, when talking about given rights and invoking the Almighty, I always capitalize it like so: God. I haven't been much of a church-goer in a long time, but I still try to give respect where I believe it to be due. Second, in reference to the highlighted text in your reply to 74novaman, the government CANNOT take away God given rights. They CAN block you from exercising said rights, though. The distinction is very important, even if the effect is the same. Blocking a God given right puts THEM in the wrong, not the individual.RockingRook wrote:Again, grow up!! Maybe god gave you your rights but the govt. can take them away.
I know they will have to pry open your cold dead hands. Right!!
That and all the other garbage that people say. It may sound good but it is all hogwash.
They had better get on the stick in Sanford, Florida and do something. I forgot it may not be
Sanford it may be Miami or maybe not even Florida. You know how the news is!!
This has been going on now for a few days it was not just breaking news 10 min ago.
Stop now.RockingRook wrote:Again, grow up!!
Well, you're free to disagree with me, but that is EXACTLY what the founders intended. I guess they should grow up too.RockingRook wrote:Again, grow up!! Maybe god gave you your rights but the govt. can take them away.
I know they will have to pry open your cold dead hands. Right!!
That and all the other garbage that people say. It may sound good but it is all hogwash.
Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands? - Patrick Henry
...arms...discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ...Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them. -- Thomas Paine
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson
Man, those guys sure need to grow up!!We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. - Patrick Henry
me 2OldCannon wrote:IBTL
