Cornyn and McConnell Will Not Back Ted Cruz

[Teamless]

If we only need Senators with "seniority" why do we want any change at all?

Change is what we need, and to get change you either have to change your Senators minds or change your Senators.

We cannot keep the same old same old......
If we wanted the same old same old, we wouldn't have concealed carry today in Texas or many other places in the USA, even if it comes with a price (not Constitutional Carry)

Period...

[JALLEN]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

Maybe, but you can't balance the budget without getting rid of the Democrats.

[mojo84]

I am not that interested in keeping senators that don't stand for conservative values whether they have seniority or not. At some point, we need people in office more interested in doing what is right than keeping their seat. The fact Cruz isn't playing well nationally only illustrates the degree of our problems.

Abandoning our conservative values is not the answer. Energizing the conservative base is. At some point, we have to start doing what is right. Otherwise, we will become a socialist country with a bunch of senior senators and representatives. Then we will fail that much sooner.

[JALLEN]

It is not just Obamacare but the debt limit, which cannot go on being raised ad infinitum.

The Dems have been in control for almost all of my life time, and the GOP has compromised with them, to get into this mess. Moreover, incumbents are under enormous pressure to "bring home some bacon." There are endless excuses to waste money, but not many appealing to not spend it. Meanwhile, the waste goes on and on and on.

I have become a Coolidgean in recent years. Waste not, want not and all that.

Cruz is doing a great job so far, and so seems to be Cornyn. Of course, untill June, my Senators were Feinstein and Boxer.

I just got e-mails from Cornyn that he will vote against funding Obamacare.

[baldeagle]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

You're living in a dream world.

[anygunanywhere]

I just got e-mails from Cornyn that he will vote against funding Obamacare.

Been trying to call his offices all morning and can't get through.

Must be a coincidence.

Anygunanywhere

[anygunanywhere]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

You're living in a dream world.

Lots of unicorns dancing around and pixie dust getting sprinkled.

Anygunanywhere

[The Annoyed Man]

More proof that Cruz is doing something RIGHT!

Although I like Cruz on (the lack of ) gun control, his moves here have been epically stupid, and seemingly almost designed to lose the Republican's chance to regain the Senate and keep the house.

If you think Obamacare is bad, let it be implemented and put it around the neck of the Democrats. Take the Senate and pass legislation to end it or improve. But remember if you end it, there was a reason people initially supported it, and you'd better have a good plan to replace it with something better. Leaving alone isn't working.

If you crater the government over this the Republicans can and should lose both houses for a decade.

Once something like this gets fully in place it takes a monumental effort to remove it, if it can be removed at all. Better to fight it tooth & nail then to even tacitly sign on to it. The bigger problem for us is that if Cornyn does go Robert the Bruce on Cruz, it puts us in an awful bind. If we take out Cornyn in a republican primary, it would leave Texas without a senior senator. Without Cornyn's seniority as cover, Cruz would have to dial it down quite a bit.

You should not risk the country over this. Its a side issue that should be addressed via normal means.
Republicans can and will be punished for doing so, thats why Cornyn and other Republicans are splitting from the junior senator. They don't want to sink the party just at the time they are gaining traction on issues and able to make inroads or retake the Senate.
Obama is lighting a fat Cuban and just laughing at Cruz handing hi this issue.

1. Republicans don't have a prayer of regaining the Senate any time soon: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/histor ... rtydiv.htm

   113th Congress (2013-2015)
   Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
   Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
   Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)
   Total Seats: 100
   Note: Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) died on June 3, 2013. He was replaced by Jeffrey Chiesa (R-NJ) on June 6, 2013, making the party division 52 Democrats, 46 Republicans, and 2 Independents (who both caucus with the Democrats).

   Republicans would have to gain NINE seats: six seats to make up the deficit between democrats and republicans just to even out at 50%; one more seat to gain a 1 seat edge; plus TWO more seats to offset the two independents who caucus with the democrats.......and that assumes that Senator Jeffrey Chiesa (R-NJ, appointed by Gov. Chris Cristi) can hold onto his seat in 2014, in democrat dominated New Jersey. That ain't gonna happen. Not in one election cycle. MAYBE in 3 or 4 election cycles, but senate terms are 6 years long and by then AHA will have been law of the land for 20 years or more and it will be permanent.........just like social security, medicare, food stamps, welfare, dept of education, and other unconstitutional abominations, as RoyGBiv pointed out earlier. Republican dreams of recapturing the senate are pipe dreams. Nothing more. I am 61 years old, and I cannot imagine the Senate regaining a conservative majority within the remainder of my lifetime.
2. Many people, possibly including yourself Cedar Park Dad, are completely misunderstanding the content of this article. Let me quote from it to you:

   Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell will not join an effort in the Senate to block a House-passed spending bill that defunds Obamacare, a spokesman for McConnell said Monday.
   
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   “Sen. Cornyn will not block a bill that defunds Obamacare,” the spokeswoman said.

   What's at issue here isn't whether or not they will block defunding of Obamacare. They are BOTH ON RECORD as being in favor of defunding it.
3. Here is where they are breaking with Ted Cruz: Harry Reid is seeking to change the senate rules requiring a 60% "supermajority" in order to defeat the defunding. Currently, 60% is required. Reid's move would make a simple 51% majority enough to block the defunding of Obamacare. Cruz is opposing that rule change, and Cornyn and McConnell are not supporting him in opposing that change. In other words, they will let the rule change happen, so that the senate will vote with a simple majority to fund Obamacare, and then they can safely vote against it, "supporting" Cruz, and claim that they were opposed to funding it.........even though they deliberately backed Reid's move to change the rules of majority........for a single issue, no less.
   
   Right now, democrats have a 52% majority, plus 2 independents. That leaves him with a 54% majority........not enough to block the defunding under current Senate rules. Those rules were established for good reasons and have been honored by both parties for a long time, regardless of which was in the majority, and regardless of the issue at hand. When Harry Reid's party was in the minority, he was all too eager to preserve this rule, to prevent exactly the kind of tyranny he is trying to impose now.
4. There is yet ANOTHER issue going on behind the scenes here, and which the media are studiously ignoring at this moment in time, although they mentioned it plenty before now; and that is the pending approval/disapproval of a large number of Obama judicial and bureaucratic appointees. These appointments require a supermajority for Senate approval under current rules. Under Reid's rule change, a simple majority would be enough. That hypocrite argued exactly the opposite when his party was in the minority during the Bush administration, and Bush's nominees were pending in the Senate. Back then, he argued that protecting the supermajority rule was crucial to the prevention of tyranny. I'd never do it myself, but I think that Reid's elimination from the gene pool would do more to solve the nation's problems than anything, including the deposing of Obama. Reid is an evil man. He's not just wrong. He's evil. By acceding to Reid's attempt to abolish the supermajority, Cornyn and McConnell are acceding to the Senate approval of a large number of Obama appointments, whom we will NEVER get rid of, and who will be an ongoing cancer in federal government LOOOOOONG after Obama is out of office. That's just wrong, no matter how you cut it.

You are arguing that we should let him be evil, and that Cornyn and McConnell should not resist his evil. Cedar Park Dad, you said "[y]ou should not risk the country over this." I am telling you, you ARE risking the country over this.

[Poldark]

Looking forward to donating to John Cornyn's Primary Challenger


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[Cedar Park Dad]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

Maybe, but you can't balance the budget without getting rid of the Democrats.

[Cedar Park Dad]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

You're living in a dream world.

Very doable. You wouldn't like what else gets cut though.

[Cedar Park Dad]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

You're living in a dream world.

Lots of unicorns dancing around and pixie dust getting sprinkled.

Anygunanywhere

Unicorn brisket is awesome with some nice steak fries.

[anygunanywhere]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

You're living in a dream world.

Very doable. You wouldn't like what else gets cut though.

It does not matter if you left Medicare alone.

In the not so distant future if the debt ceiling is increased time and time again there will not be enough revenue generated to even pay the interest on the debt. Your claim to balance the budget and leave Medicare alone is an empty claim not based on facts.

Anygunanywhere

[Cedar Park Dad]

I could balance the budget without getting rid of Medicare.

You're living in a dream world.

Very doable. You wouldn't like what else gets cut though.

It does not matter if you left Medicare alone.

In the not so distant future if the debt ceiling is increased time and time again there will not be enough revenue generated to even pay the interest on the debt. Your claim to balance the budget and leave Medicare alone is an empty claim not based on facts.

Anygunanywhere

Mmm..no.

[Robert*PPS]

1) There comes a time, and in this case an issue, where pure political tactics aren't enough. There comes a time when, in the face of those who firmly stand in opposition to your values, you stand on principle, and you make that stand with conviction. Without principle, any political party that wins elections will be problematic to the foundations of liberty and freedom that the United States embodies.

2) Cruz is standing on principle. Cornyn is playing political Stratego. I will remember this in the poll booth.

3) Arguing that standing on principle risks the country is like arguing that one should not rock the boat for fear of capsizing when there is a person at the front laughing hysterically and drilling a hole in the hull.