Of course, he's wrong. It actually takes significant gunsmithing talent to turn a semi AR-15 into a full auto. For example the semi AR-15 variants would require replacement of the bolt carrier, hammer, disconnector, and sear at a minimum and the lower receivers are drilled to make this very difficult without machining and so are the uppers. It's also highly illegal unless you are a licensed manufacturer. Reportedly ATF spends a lot of time trying to bust people doing this. Like another poster said, Tactical shouldn't have gone there, but having done it they should be called out as being full of it by some real Title II dealers/manufacturers.howdy wrote:A few comments and questions:
PM said the Navy sniper was killed in a shooting range "very similar to this range" That was completely false.
PM said the Aurora shooter used a slide fire stock. This is the first I heard of this. Is it true?
The owner of Tactical Firearms said anybody could buy the necessary parts to turn an AR-15 into a fully automatic weapon. Can you do this and would it be legal? He made it sound like it would be a easy thing to do. He also made it sound like an ordinary person could just go to his shop and buy a class 3 weapon. He did a poor job (or it was edited) explaining the difficulty, waiting time, cost, etc. of obtaining one of these things. When asked aboout the home defense weapon, he said he would use a shotgun. He fell right into PM's trap on that. A good reply would be to ask "what is the threat".
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ScottDLS wrote:Of course, he's wrong. It actually takes significant gunsmithing talent to turn a semi AR-15 into a full auto. For example the semi AR-15 variants would require replacement of the bolt carrier, hammer, disconnector, and sear at a minimum and the lower receivers are drilled to make this very difficult without machining and so are the uppers. It's also highly illegal unless you are a licensed manufacturer. Reportedly ATF spends a lot of time trying to bust people doing this. Like another poster said, Tactical shouldn't have gone there, but having done it they should be called out as being full of it by some real Title II dealers/manufacturers.howdy wrote:A few comments and questions:
PM said the Navy sniper was killed in a shooting range "very similar to this range" That was completely false.
PM said the Aurora shooter used a slide fire stock. This is the first I heard of this. Is it true?
The owner of Tactical Firearms said anybody could buy the necessary parts to turn an AR-15 into a fully automatic weapon. Can you do this and would it be legal? He made it sound like it would be a easy thing to do. He also made it sound like an ordinary person could just go to his shop and buy a class 3 weapon. He did a poor job (or it was edited) explaining the difficulty, waiting time, cost, etc. of obtaining one of these things. When asked aboout the home defense weapon, he said he would use a shotgun. He fell right into PM's trap on that. A good reply would be to ask "what is the threat".
I just got done sending them a little message "thanking them" for making it seem like any ol' Joe can just take a screwdriver and a paperclip and viola, rock-n-roll. The excellent books by Patrick Sweeney on the AR-15 basically said what you said above about "converting one", namely that it just isn't that easy. I wish there was some way to start a boycott of that place and hit him where it hurts, in his wallet.
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The article linked below contains an original interview I did with Pers Morgan last night...
Piers Morgan came to the Houston area to learn firsthand from Texans about the weapons he is attacking and the strong feelings of Texans about their Second Amendment Rights. With a studio set up in the gun store showroom, Morgan interviewed Texas Attorney General Greg Abbot, State Senator Dan Patrick, and legendary guitarist and NRA board member Ted Nugent.
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/stop ... as-0051001
Piers Morgan came to the Houston area to learn firsthand from Texans about the weapons he is attacking and the strong feelings of Texans about their Second Amendment Rights. With a studio set up in the gun store showroom, Morgan interviewed Texas Attorney General Greg Abbot, State Senator Dan Patrick, and legendary guitarist and NRA board member Ted Nugent.
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/stop ... as-0051001
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Alcede claims that his interview was taped and butchered beyond all context. He also claims he will be releasing the entire 40 minute interview captured on his security cameras. We shall see.
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Redneck_Buddha wrote:Alcede claims that his interview was taped and butchered beyond all context. He also claims he will be releasing the entire 40 minute interview captured on his security cameras. We shall see.
gee, does that fall under the "duh" category?
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I will be interviewing Alcede about that and playing his tape for him.Redneck_Buddha wrote:Alcede claims that his interview was taped and butchered beyond all context. He also claims he will be releasing the entire 40 minute interview captured on his security cameras. We shall see.
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Cool beans!BPNovum wrote:I will be interviewing Alcede about that and playing his tape for him.Redneck_Buddha wrote:Alcede claims that his interview was taped and butchered beyond all context. He also claims he will be releasing the entire 40 minute interview captured on his security cameras. We shall see.
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67SS wrote:The one thing I see on every talk show is the gun owners on the defensive.... we must stop being on the defensive, and take the offence.. NO ground will ever be taken by a defensive action... The only way to hold or gain ground is in a offensive action..... P.M. is always on the offensive and over shouting his guests... My stand is to stop answering his inflammatory questions which are designed to place the responder on the defensive and reply in kind with a equally inflammatory questions to place him on the defensive...
We have to stop defending and make the gun grabbers defend their stance.... Take the initiative, question what good were Obamas 23 executive orders, what DID the orders do to keep mentally deficient people from harming others and themselves., what did the orders do to curb murderers/homicidal people for inflicting damage on the innocent.... What did the 23 orders do to curb medical homicide, alcohol related homicide. which are higher than gun.....
I would force the talking point about crime on crime death (BG vs BG), drug deals, theft, muggers, rapist, etc.. separate home invaders shot by home defenders, police shooting bad guys, all the stats that prove gun ownership is good, verses illegal gun ownership... point out that 90% of all gun crime are done with guns obtained illegally..... point out that the Administration provided Illegal guns to people/nation where guns are banned...
If they are going to have talking points on homicide then ramp up to the larger categories that happen every day.... Take the fight to the liberals as to why they are not acting on the larger picture.. I would also note to them that according to the FBI stats, that gun deaths are the lowest they have been since 1960 and if they could stop the happenings in Chicago, Detroit, and DC.. then our murder rate would be the lowest it has ever been since record keeping started...
We need quite being reactionary and start being actionary preemptive.
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