Interesting Ron Paul ad: Chinese Army in Texas

[fulano]

Yep that was scary.

Thought I was going to see another ad showing the inevitability of United Nation troops in the US. What ever happened to that line?? I've not seen it used in the whole campaign.

Maybe it is cold now

[RCP]

How is a guy who wants to cut 1 trillion in spending his 1st year in office, end entitlements, supports the 2nd Amendment more than Newt or Romney, and wants nothing more than to eliminate the Federal government from interfering in our personal liberties NOT a conservative?! Lot of misinformation about Ron Paul out there if you ask me.

The President really has no control on how spending is accomplished. Congress sets budgets, the President can approve or deny. And a quick check of how much fed money goes to the Paulie district shows......the district has quadrupled the amount of fed money going to that district. Fourth highest in the nation......hmmmmmm. Shoot, there was 180 nice recipients that had their homes rebuilt at taxpayers expense. Is that a handout/entitlement, earmark or a pander for votes? I sure would like my house rebuilt so I didn't have to spend that money on insurance.

A supposed doctor of medicine that wants to legalize marijuana. Are we sure we are teaching these doctors correct? But of course there is nothing wrong with a bit of pot smoking.

Their is a lot of misinformation about Paulie, and it comes from his own lips.

His proposal to cut spending starts with eliminating Federal Depts, one such dept is FEMA which you have pointed out help rebuild the homes of 180 people in his own COASTAL district.

The second part of your claim is getting really old and thats the one where he wants to legalize marijuana and ALL other drugs. What he wants is for the Federal government to get out of the drug war and let the States decide on their own drug laws. He's also said he's against seatbelt laws, he believes in the use of seatbelts but doesn't believe the government has the right to force you to wear one. This is similar to his view on drugs, he has stated while he as a physician can see some benefit to marijuana for medicinal purposes he does not advocate recreational drug use however he does not see that the government has the right to tell you what you can or can't consume as an adult. In other words he pretty much does not believe in the government trying to protect us from ourselves or interfere in our lives anymore than possible, it's as simple as that. How that's looked upon as being liberal is beyond me.

I think what I've learned as a new Ron Paul supporter (I voted for McCain and have always simply voted for whomever the GOP has decided to give us) this go around is that while a lot of so called "conservatives" pay lip service to limited government, individual liberties and the Constitution they aren't really interested in such concepts. Instead they really favor heavy handed government. The only debate is what kind we should have, their kind or the other sides kind.

[Heartland Patriot]

While I am all for civil liberties (but not the kind that put criminals above the law abiding, just want to make sure that is understood), I simply don't like a weak foreign policy. I believe the best defense is a good offense. There are far too many Little Mary Sunshines that think if we just hug the world, that everyone will love us and play nice. Nothing could be further from the truth. They want us DOWN, they want to kick us while we're down, and they'll LAUGH while they do it. Some people, despite how terrible it may be in reality, only respect FORCE. That is the way it is, like it or not.

[RCP]

I don't see his foreign policy as weak, he wants to put America first and defend our borders. He doesn't put war out of the question he only states that if threats against the US are percieved we should take them to Congress as outlined in the Constitution and vote on whether or not war is what we want to do. If we do choose to go to war with anyone he wants to go in, destroy them, and GET OUT. Contrasted with what we've been doing which is going in, destroying them, then staying for several years losing thousands of lives on the ground and spending trillions of dollars we don't have to rebuild the nation we just destroyed.

[stroguy]

His proposal to cut spending starts with eliminating Federal Depts, one such dept is FEMA which you have pointed out help rebuild the homes of 180 people in his own COASTAL district.

Ronnie didn't have to take the money. He voted no on most of these bills that earmarked money into his district. He knew the bills would pass and decided to vote no, but still took the cash. C'mon man.

The second part of your claim is getting really old and thats the one where he wants to legalize marijuana and ALL other drugs. What he wants is for the Federal government to get out of the drug war and let the States decide on their own drug laws. He's also said he's against seatbelt laws, he believes in the use of seatbelts but doesn't believe the government has the right to force you to wear one. This is similar to his view on drugs, he has stated while he as a physician can see some benefit to marijuana for medicinal purposes he does not advocate recreational drug use however he does not see that the government has the right to tell you what you can or can't consume as an adult. In other words he pretty much does not believe in the government trying to protect us from ourselves or interfere in our lives anymore than possible, it's as simple as that. How that's looked upon as being liberal is beyond me.

Well I hope you continue to hear it. Making marijuana illegal at a federal level is a good idea. So Texas legalizes it but Arizona doesn't. Now Mexico runs illegal drugs through Texas to Arizona school kids. Who takes control of another nation doing this? Not Texas problem we legalized it. Not smart. The drug is bad, it should be banned on a federal level, period. When other nations hijack our families with narcotics, that's not the states problem. The man does not care if it is legalized, that is the truth. Not a smart an to be an MD.

I think what I've learned as a new Ron Paul supporter (I voted for McCain and have always simply voted for whomever the GOP has decided to give us) this go around is that while a lot of so called "conservatives" pay lip service to limited government, individual liberties and the Constitution they aren't really interested in such concepts. Instead they really favor heavy handed government. The only debate is what kind we should have, their kind or the other sides kind.

Ron Paul openly said he would cut DOD by 50%. That is the rantings of a crazy libertarian, not a conservative Republican. Ronnie is a lib and not a conservative, end of story. He is hiding among the Republicans because he knows just how much money is in the RNC cash register.

[RCP]

There is plenty of room in the DOD to cut 50% while still providing a strong defense for the US. Do we really still need troops and bases in Germany? Japan? Do we really need to spend trillions of dollars we don't have in the name of nation building of 3rd world countries such as Afghanistan?

[stroguy]

There is plenty of room in the DOD to cut 50% while still providing a strong defense for the US. Do we really still need troops and bases in Germany? Japan? Do we really need to spend trillions of dollars we don't have in the name of nation building of 3rd world countries such as Afghanistan?

I disagree, yes and yes.

I will finish my Paulie input to this post pretty much where I started. I don't like the guy, I think he portrays what he is, what he will do and what he thinks he is a capable of, behind the three Monty Hall doors. Each one is going to be a surprise.

If the man gets the nod, he gets my vote. It's sad that Paulie himself and most of his flock cannot express that same sentiment for the candidate if it is not Ronnie. ABO!

[Lambda Force]

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Instead of Chinese, imagine they're Yankees. You just described Lincoln's War and the "Reconstruction" that followed.

You also explained the Democratic Party's dominance of Southern politics for more than 100 years afterward. There are still people who vote Democratic straight ticket because Lincoln was a Republican.

[bikerbill]

I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he has been pretty open over the years in his rejection of sending U.S. troops overseas for combat purposes when there is no direct threat to our country. Wonder how the Founders would have felt about our overseas adventures -- Somalia, for instance -- without a threat of Somali invasion or attack here? One of the big reasons the federal budget is such a mess is paying to get rid of Saddam or save Grenada ... IMHO we need to stop allowing the president to simply order attacks without Congressional approval and quit butting in to everybody's business ... being the world's policeman is a costly business, in lives and money ...

[74novaman]

I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he has been pretty open over the years in his rejection of sending U.S. troops overseas for combat purposes when there is no direct threat to our country. Wonder how the Founders would have felt about our overseas adventures -- Somalia, for instance -- without a threat of Somali invasion or attack here? One of the big reasons the federal budget is such a mess is paying to get rid of Saddam or save Grenada ... IMHO we need to stop allowing the president to simply order attacks without Congressional approval and quit butting in to everybody's business ... being the world's policeman is a costly business, in lives and money ...

Muslim pirates in Somalia today...

Muslim pirates off the Barbary coast in the 1800s.

We don't have to speculate what the founders "would" do. We know what they did.

[koconcept]

Ill say I plan to vote for paul but if it is romney obama in the general ill be done voting there justg isn't a difference between them in my opinion. If its perry gingrich or any other person besides romney or obama ill vote for them even if I have to hold my nose a little.

[Dave2]

I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he has been pretty open over the years in his rejection of sending U.S. troops overseas for combat purposes when there is no direct threat to our country. Wonder how the Founders would have felt about our overseas adventures -- Somalia, for instance -- without a threat of Somali invasion or attack here? One of the big reasons the federal budget is such a mess is paying to get rid of Saddam or save Grenada ... IMHO we need to stop allowing the president to simply order attacks without Congressional approval and quit butting in to everybody's business ... being the world's policeman is a costly business, in lives and money ...

Muslim pirates in Somalia today...

Muslim pirates off the Barbary coast in the 1800s.

We don't have to speculate what the founders "would" do. We know what they did.

To be fair, they didn't do anything until the pirates started attacking American ships.

[bayouhazard]

I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he has been pretty open over the years in his rejection of sending U.S. troops overseas for combat purposes when there is no direct threat to our country. Wonder how the Founders would have felt about our overseas adventures -- Somalia, for instance -- without a threat of Somali invasion or attack here? One of the big reasons the federal budget is such a mess is paying to get rid of Saddam or save Grenada ... IMHO we need to stop allowing the president to simply order attacks without Congressional approval and quit butting in to everybody's business ... being the world's policeman is a costly business, in lives and money ...

Muslim pirates in Somalia today...

Muslim pirates off the Barbary coast in the 1800s.

We don't have to speculate what the founders "would" do. We know what they did.

To be fair, they didn't do anything until the pirates started attacking American ships.

Didn't they pay the protection money for a while before going to guns?

[Dave2]

I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he has been pretty open over the years in his rejection of sending U.S. troops overseas for combat purposes when there is no direct threat to our country. Wonder how the Founders would have felt about our overseas adventures -- Somalia, for instance -- without a threat of Somali invasion or attack here? One of the big reasons the federal budget is such a mess is paying to get rid of Saddam or save Grenada ... IMHO we need to stop allowing the president to simply order attacks without Congressional approval and quit butting in to everybody's business ... being the world's policeman is a costly business, in lives and money ...

Muslim pirates in Somalia today...

Muslim pirates off the Barbary coast in the 1800s.

We don't have to speculate what the founders "would" do. We know what they did.

To be fair, they didn't do anything until the pirates started attacking American ships.

Didn't they pay the protection money for a while before going to guns?

Dunno. Wait, are we talking about now or then? Currently, I think we're paying the pirates. Back then, I don't know.

[fulano]

Humm..
Ron likes the China theme. I guess we will see more of these.
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