Healthcare Passes
Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton
-
- Junior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:49 pm
- Location: Springtown, Tx -- Currently in Afghanistan
Re: Healthcare Passes
If I didnt have insurance through my work, or need it for my wife. I would rather pay the fine than the insurance premiums. Currently my fine would be around $1500 while I currently pay $9500 a year in premiums.
I do fervently hope that our State Legislature and our Governor address this issue quickly and assert Texas sovereignty.
I do fervently hope that our State Legislature and our Governor address this issue quickly and assert Texas sovereignty.
Re: Healthcare Passes
Congress passed a massive unconstitutional law. The President signed a massive unconstitutional law.Kythas wrote:I believe it's possible during this administration's term in office we will see some major civil unrest.
Many of us took an Oath when we were young. I'm waiting to see what the Supreme Court does, or for the law to go into effect, whatever comes first, but I don't fault anyone who doesn't wait to fight back against known enemies.
Re: Healthcare Passes
I would and I would support their speedy trial and long prison sentence. I think everyone is getting way out of hand on some of these comments.bizarrenormality wrote:Congress passed a massive unconstitutional law. The President signed a massive unconstitutional law.Kythas wrote:I believe it's possible during this administration's term in office we will see some major civil unrest.
Many of us took an Oath when we were young. I'm waiting to see what the Supreme Court does, or for the law to go into effect, whatever comes first, but I don't fault anyone who doesn't wait to fight back against known enemies.
Do you REALLY want that?
Re: Healthcare Passes
What I want is politicians and public officials who obey the Constitution.
A speedy trial and long prison sentence for Obama and Pelosi and their co-conspirators would be an acceptable fate.
A speedy trial and long prison sentence for Obama and Pelosi and their co-conspirators would be an acceptable fate.
Re: Healthcare Passes
Agreed. And I want honest ones too. People who had the integrity of Washington (turned down chance to be King of America) are sadly lacking.bizarrenormality wrote:What I want is politicians and public officials who obey the Constitution.
I would love to start by somehow limiting lobbyists from corrupting the politicians.
I just really hope everyone realizes the way to change things is through the voting booth and dont resort to violence over some of this stuff. People did not go running into the night when the Patriot Act came into being, they should not go nuts over health care. I hope people turn their energy into positive change.
And I REALLY hope BOTH parties present to us what they can do for us to make things better, and not just run on half truths and fear. I think we deserve that from them.
Re: Healthcare Passes
Like I said, I'm giving the Supreme Court a change to overturn it before it goes into effect. It's a limited time offer.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 4
- Posts: 6267
- Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:14 am
- Location: Flint, TX
Re: Healthcare Passes
PSL -- Just wondering, at what point would YOU draw the line? If you're happy with the current situation, just what would it take to reach your limit? Not everybody in 1776 thought the Founding Fathers were doing the correct thing, either.PSLOwner wrote:I would and I would support their speedy trial and long prison sentence. I think everyone is getting way out of hand on some of these comments.bizarrenormality wrote:Congress passed a massive unconstitutional law. The President signed a massive unconstitutional law.Kythas wrote:I believe it's possible during this administration's term in office we will see some major civil unrest.
Many of us took an Oath when we were young. I'm waiting to see what the Supreme Court does, or for the law to go into effect, whatever comes first, but I don't fault anyone who doesn't wait to fight back against known enemies.
Do you REALLY want that?
Range Rule: "The front gate lock is not an acceptable target."
Never Forget.
Never Forget.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 4
- Posts: 3032
- Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 10:12 am
- Location: Northern Colorado
Re: Healthcare Passes
In your opinion, were the Founding Fathers due a prison sentence then?PSLOwner wrote:I would and I would support their speedy trial and long prison sentence. I think everyone is getting way out of hand on some of these comments.bizarrenormality wrote:Congress passed a massive unconstitutional law. The President signed a massive unconstitutional law.Kythas wrote:I believe it's possible during this administration's term in office we will see some major civil unrest.
Many of us took an Oath when we were young. I'm waiting to see what the Supreme Court does, or for the law to go into effect, whatever comes first, but I don't fault anyone who doesn't wait to fight back against known enemies.
Do you REALLY want that?
*NRA Endowment Member* | Veteran
Vote Adam Kraut for the NRA Board of Directors - http://www.adamkraut.com/
Vote Adam Kraut for the NRA Board of Directors - http://www.adamkraut.com/
Re: Healthcare Passes
Healthcare does not equal 1776.sjfcontrol wrote:PSL -- Just wondering, at what point would YOU draw the line? If you're happy with the current situation, just what would it take to reach your limit? Not everybody in 1776 thought the Founding Fathers were doing the correct thing, either.PSLOwner wrote:I would and I would support their speedy trial and long prison sentence. I think everyone is getting way out of hand on some of these comments.bizarrenormality wrote:Congress passed a massive unconstitutional law. The President signed a massive unconstitutional law.Kythas wrote:I believe it's possible during this administration's term in office we will see some major civil unrest.
Many of us took an Oath when we were young. I'm waiting to see what the Supreme Court does, or for the law to go into effect, whatever comes first, but I don't fault anyone who doesn't wait to fight back against known enemies.
Do you REALLY want that?
The amount of rhetoric is just in overdrive and people fanning the flames via talk radio is just WAY out of control.
Because I am not in favor of civil unrest does not mean I am thrilled with the US government. During the worst of the Bush years I never felt that way.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 4
- Posts: 6267
- Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:14 am
- Location: Flint, TX
Re: Healthcare Passes
Your right, health care does not equal tea (tax)...PSLOwner wrote:Healthcare does not equal 1776.sjfcontrol wrote:
PSL -- Just wondering, at what point would YOU draw the line? If you're happy with the current situation, just what would it take to reach your limit? Not everybody in 1776 thought the Founding Fathers were doing the correct thing, either.
The amount of rhetoric is just in overdrive and people fanning the flames via talk radio is just WAY out of control.
Because I am not in favor of civil unrest does not mean I am thrilled with the US government. During the worst of the Bush years I never felt that way.
Range Rule: "The front gate lock is not an acceptable target."
Never Forget.
Never Forget.
Re: Healthcare Passes
Well, I just cannot agree with the that line of thinking as I just think it is wrong-headed. I respect your heartfelt opinion and I respectfully agree to disagree.
-
- Banned
- Posts in topic: 16
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:35 pm
- Location: Cedar Park/Austin
Re: Healthcare Passes
What would it take for me to have "enough"?
Repeal of any of the Bill Of Rights
President for Life
The Draft
Gun Grab
UN on our Streets
Repeal of any of the Bill Of Rights
President for Life
The Draft
Gun Grab
UN on our Streets
In Capitalism, Man exploits Man. In Communism, it's just the reverse
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 382
- Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:58 pm
- Location: DFW
Re: Healthcare Passes
Why would you pay for insurance now when you can pay the fine annually, get "insurance" if anything major pops up since you can't be refused, and just mooch emergency care off the rest of the taxpayers like the rest of the deadbeats. Obamacare is nothing short of pure genius.Clint_Thomas wrote:If I didnt have insurance through my work, or need it for my wife. I would rather pay the fine than the insurance premiums. Currently my fine would be around $1500 while I currently pay $9500 a year in premiums.
I do fervently hope that our State Legislature and our Governor address this issue quickly and assert Texas sovereignty.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 4
- Posts: 3032
- Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 10:12 am
- Location: Northern Colorado
Re: Healthcare Passes
What about a blatant violation of the BoR?marksiwel wrote:What would it take for me to have "enough"?sjfcontrol wrote:I understand, and did not disrespect your opinion either -- but you didn't answer my question... What would it take???PSLOwner wrote:Well, I just cannot agree with the that line of thinking as I just think it is wrong-headed. I respect your heartfelt opinion and I respectfully agree to disagree.
Repeal of any of the Bill Of Rights
President for Life
The Draft
Gun Grab
UN on our Streets
Since the Senate bill imposes sharp limits on health-insurance companies' ability to raise fees or exclude coverage, it likely will force many of them out of business. Obamacare is unconstitutional because it violates the Bill of Rights protections against takings without just compensation and deprivation of property without due process of law.
*NRA Endowment Member* | Veteran
Vote Adam Kraut for the NRA Board of Directors - http://www.adamkraut.com/
Vote Adam Kraut for the NRA Board of Directors - http://www.adamkraut.com/
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 4
- Posts: 6267
- Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:14 am
- Location: Flint, TX
Re: Healthcare Passes
Well, the bill of rights will never be repealed -- but that doesn't mean they'll always be relevant or effective.marksiwel wrote:What would it take for me to have "enough"?sjfcontrol wrote:I understand, and did not disrespect your opinion either -- but you didn't answer my question... What would it take???PSLOwner wrote:Well, I just cannot agree with the that line of thinking as I just think it is wrong-headed. I respect your heartfelt opinion and I respectfully agree to disagree.
Repeal of any of the Bill Of Rights
President for Life
The Draft
Gun Grab
UN on our Streets
President for life? -- Maybe emergency powers? In other words, I guess you're good here for at least another three years.
The draft? We already had that a long time ago, so I guess you can't count that one.
UN on our streets, could happen, or again is could be effectively done without any actual troops.
My point was, problems now are much more than just health care.
Problems in 1776 were much more than just a tea tax.
Range Rule: "The front gate lock is not an acceptable target."
Never Forget.
Never Forget.