Healthcare Passes
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Healthcare Passes
Goodbye America! Hello Europe!!!
Lets see through healthcare they can control just about everything.
And since we are 85 trillion in debt already my guess taxes are going to go sky high.
Texans do we really want to be a part of this? I dont.
Lets see through healthcare they can control just about everything.
And since we are 85 trillion in debt already my guess taxes are going to go sky high.
Texans do we really want to be a part of this? I dont.
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Do you have a permit for that picture, Comrade?USA1 wrote:Anyone thirsty?
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No. It kind of reminds me of cleaning on ship; if everyone's doing something, nothing gets done. (It makes more sense if you've been on a Navy ship)texas1234 wrote:Goodbye America! Hello Europe!!!
Lets see through healthcare they can control just about everything.
And since we are 85 trillion in debt already my guess taxes are going to go sky high.
Texans do we really want to be a part of this? I dont.
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I have been on a Navy ship as a Marine and I understand your point.
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Yay! Someone to relate to. I too was Marine on a floating prison.texas1234 wrote:I have been on a Navy ship as a Marine and I understand your point.
I wonder how many other things they're going to try and make a "public option" for.
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No comment.
I have a question though.
What's next comrads?
Geraldo Rivera is a retard. Fox News needs to pink slip him.
I have a question though.
What's next comrads?
Geraldo Rivera is a retard. Fox News needs to pink slip him.
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UncleBob wrote: Geraldo Rivera is a retard. Fox News needs to pink slip him.
He just hasn't been the same since he found Al Capone's vault.
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This is a tragedy. "Health care" will be regulated in total by the Central Government, just as with Social Security. All to protect the King's and Queen's legacy -- through total ignorance.
We will no longer have individual say in what "health care" we receive. As well, we will have to each pay at least hundreds a year more in taxes to pay for it, on top of the "insurance" we will be forced to hire. Unfortunately, the "benefits" written in the bill will not be seen by each of us for several more years (read the bill, it's there). However, the tax money and fees will be collected from us starting next year. Guess where that money will go? To deflect criticism of the national debt by overstating national "income", and to Social Security and Medicaid, which began running a deficit this year.
"Health care" as defined by a government agency (wait for one to be formed) is not a human Right. I have no "Right" to take money out of other people's pockets to pay for my "Rights". We used to have the best health care in the world, just as we used to have the best manufacturing in the world. It all ended today.
The vote today takes away our freedom of choice, and takes money out of our pockets. I selected insurance which gives me a say in what I want; if they won't pay for it, I shall, as I should. Many people have voted to not have health insurance, not just because they couldn't afford it, but because they didn't want it; they knew that they would pay more in premiums than they would receive. That is freedom of choice. Health Insurance is not necessary for the average person; that's how insurance works. Those who are worse off are subsidized by those who are better off, just like the basic tenet of socialism.
But, just like health insurance today, there will be those who (like in the USSR) are "more equal." The members of Congress are exempt from this bill, by the way. All of the other Government employees actually have had to pay a large share of their own insurance all along.
Yes, socialism is Bad. Just ask Russia, Sweden, France, England and Greece, for starters. Ask the average person in the street there how things are going. Especially, ask them who they want to pay their bills. They won't say "Me." By the way, we are the largest contributer to the IMF; guess who's likely to now help pay Greece's bills?
We will no longer have individual say in what "health care" we receive. As well, we will have to each pay at least hundreds a year more in taxes to pay for it, on top of the "insurance" we will be forced to hire. Unfortunately, the "benefits" written in the bill will not be seen by each of us for several more years (read the bill, it's there). However, the tax money and fees will be collected from us starting next year. Guess where that money will go? To deflect criticism of the national debt by overstating national "income", and to Social Security and Medicaid, which began running a deficit this year.
"Health care" as defined by a government agency (wait for one to be formed) is not a human Right. I have no "Right" to take money out of other people's pockets to pay for my "Rights". We used to have the best health care in the world, just as we used to have the best manufacturing in the world. It all ended today.
The vote today takes away our freedom of choice, and takes money out of our pockets. I selected insurance which gives me a say in what I want; if they won't pay for it, I shall, as I should. Many people have voted to not have health insurance, not just because they couldn't afford it, but because they didn't want it; they knew that they would pay more in premiums than they would receive. That is freedom of choice. Health Insurance is not necessary for the average person; that's how insurance works. Those who are worse off are subsidized by those who are better off, just like the basic tenet of socialism.
But, just like health insurance today, there will be those who (like in the USSR) are "more equal." The members of Congress are exempt from this bill, by the way. All of the other Government employees actually have had to pay a large share of their own insurance all along.
Yes, socialism is Bad. Just ask Russia, Sweden, France, England and Greece, for starters. Ask the average person in the street there how things are going. Especially, ask them who they want to pay their bills. They won't say "Me." By the way, we are the largest contributer to the IMF; guess who's likely to now help pay Greece's bills?
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1 trillion bucks (which means 2.5 trillion) without even trying free market ideas. Now we still have to save Social Security and Medicare with Tax and Trade around the corner.
I've always been a Texan first and a US citizen 2nd. Time to secede if this keeps up. (I just read Michener's "Texas: A Novel" and it's time we got back some of that.)
Maybe the Supreme Court will over turn it due to the suspect way they voted on this and by forcing us to get health insurance?
I work at a hospital and people get upset after a 2 hour delay in getting surgery. When insurance companies collapse and we're all on the same plan with rationing on the rise, that 2 hours will be a sweet reminisce.
I've always been a Texan first and a US citizen 2nd. Time to secede if this keeps up. (I just read Michener's "Texas: A Novel" and it's time we got back some of that.)
Maybe the Supreme Court will over turn it due to the suspect way they voted on this and by forcing us to get health insurance?
I work at a hospital and people get upset after a 2 hour delay in getting surgery. When insurance companies collapse and we're all on the same plan with rationing on the rise, that 2 hours will be a sweet reminisce.
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Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope for corrective action this November.
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David Frum puts it into perspective.
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Still can't find where this is allowed in the Constitution.
Pelosi and her anti-constitutionalists are bigger threats to America than Bin Laden ever was.
Pelosi and her anti-constitutionalists are bigger threats to America than Bin Laden ever was.
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