SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
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SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW
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SB 1164 bill history
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Anybody know how the 2nd reading roll call vote went? It's not on the bill history (link above) page yet.
EDIT: The roll call vote that I originally thought was the 2nd reading vote was actually today's vote to suspend the rules. Today was the 2nd reading.
Good news: a roll call vote just shot down amendment number 1, which I gathered was about letting regents limit carry in dorms (I came in late).
Now floor amendment 2 is coming up. It's more about dorms. Letting students or parents request that they get a floor or a wing or a dorm that doesn't allow carry.
EDIT: The roll call vote that I originally thought was the 2nd reading vote was actually today's vote to suspend the rules. Today was the 2nd reading.
Good news: a roll call vote just shot down amendment number 1, which I gathered was about letting regents limit carry in dorms (I came in late).
Now floor amendment 2 is coming up. It's more about dorms. Letting students or parents request that they get a floor or a wing or a dorm that doesn't allow carry.
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Hold on while we clap for some students before they leave...
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They're withdrawing #2 to amend it to say "room or suite" (I think -- can't devote ALL my attention to this right now).
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The second reading roll call vote was 21 to 9. We squeaked by. There is no way of knowing yet how each Senator voted.tornado wrote:Anybody know how the 2nd reading roll call vote went? It's not on the bill history (link above) page yet.
Good news: a roll call vote just shot down amendment number 1, which I gathered was about letting regents limit carry in dorms (I came in late).
Now floor amendment 2 is coming up. It's more about dorms. Letting students or parents request that they get a floor or a wing or a dorm that doesn't allow carry.
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Leticia Van de Putte (D-San Antone) is the author of both amendments offered so far.
Bill author Jeff Wentworth (R-San Antone) is against both of the amendments.
Amendment 3 is expected to be the amended amendment 2.
Woo-hoo -- more kids to clap for!
Bill author Jeff Wentworth (R-San Antone) is against both of the amendments.
Amendment 3 is expected to be the amended amendment 2.
Woo-hoo -- more kids to clap for!
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As a bad-guy I certainly would want to know which dorm or wing is a "gun-free" zone.
Bah, sorry. Just venting.
Bah, sorry. Just venting.
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Amendment 3 is up -- "room or suite."
Sen. Van de Putte understands that the university would not know if a student has a CHL, but seems to think that one roommate would be able to figure out if another roommate has one. Uh -- what?
Sen. Dan Patrick is discussing that now.
Sen. Van de Putte understands that the university would not know if a student has a CHL, but seems to think that one roommate would be able to figure out if another roommate has one. Uh -- what?
Sen. Dan Patrick is discussing that now.
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Amendment 3 failed in a roll call vote 19-11 (I think -- also a conversation going on by my desk).
Sen. Lucio has amendment 4 (allows a school to "opt out" of carry if a study by the THECB shows "gun violence" goes up). Wentworth is asking him questions now.
Sen. Lucio has amendment 4 (allows a school to "opt out" of carry if a study by the THECB shows "gun violence" goes up). Wentworth is asking him questions now.
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There may yet be a little life!
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if campus carry passes we have a heck of a lot of thank you notes to write...
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I wish that senators had to be articulate in order to be allowed to speak.
...mouthful of cotton balls.
...mouthful of cotton balls.
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MOST definitely!!TexasComputerDude wrote:if campus carry passes we have a heck of a lot of thank you notes to write...
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Amendment 4 has been tabled in a roll call vote 18-12.
(For the record, amendments 1 & 3 were both technically "tabled.")
Floor amendment 5 would let colleges & universities prohibit carry on any premises where alcohol is sold or served for on-premises consumption, hospitals and meetings of the governing board. Whitworth has moved to table.
EDIT: tabled 18-12
#6: make it clear there's no exception for bar, polling place or governing board meeting.
(For the record, amendments 1 & 3 were both technically "tabled.")
Floor amendment 5 would let colleges & universities prohibit carry on any premises where alcohol is sold or served for on-premises consumption, hospitals and meetings of the governing board. Whitworth has moved to table.
EDIT: tabled 18-12
#6: make it clear there's no exception for bar, polling place or governing board meeting.
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A lot of amendments trying to gut this and so far the bill has a pretty tough stomach. Opponents are going to try to amend this to death, but hopefully it will be able to survive.
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