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Tylerscott20 wrote:I'm not sure about an ar fully built for under 400, but i built mine from a kit from ceratac.com about a month ago. Came with everything but a lower receiver, which I've had for quite awhile.

Our OMNI HYBRID MAXX features a fully-patented metal reinforced polymer upper receiver along with a fully-patented metal reinforced polymer lower receiver. The Omni Hybrid lower features a patented hammer and trigger pin retainment system, preventing movement from the hammer and trigger pin during firing. The Omni Hybrid also featured our patented over-molded metal insert, which reinforces the buffer tube housing and rear takedown pin. This allows for metal-on-metal contact with both the buffer tube as well as the rear takedown pin thus increasing strength and durability from recoil and consistent firing. In addition a magazine is now included with all Omni Hybrid MAXX rifles.

troglodyte wrote:

Tylerscott20 wrote:I'm not sure about an ar fully built for under 400, but i built mine from a kit from ceratac.com about a month ago. Came with everything but a lower receiver, which I've had for quite awhile.

I'm in the middle of building one from Ceratac.

16" 1:8 kit for $290.00 (assuming they are still on sale) + Free Shipping
Forged American Pride blem lower that Runner Runner Guns had on sale for $30. Picked it up when I was in Dallas on business.
Trinity Force BUIS for $19.17 (inc. shipping and tax) from Ground Zero Clearance.

What's a BUIS?

Thanks
AR for just under $340.00. If you want Ceratac to build the upper for you add $24.00. Still well under $400

I'm not expecting this to be a high-end gun. This is going to be the equivalent of the gun pioneers kept over the door. Something that the wife or I can grab quick if a coyote is in the chicken house or if we have uninvited guests up to no good. We don't have to worry with it getting banged around.

troglodyte wrote:

Tylerscott20 wrote:I'm not sure about an ar fully built for under 400, but i built mine from a kit from ceratac.com about a month ago. Came with everything but a lower receiver, which I've had for quite awhile.

I'm in the middle of building one from Ceratac.

16" 1:8 kit for $290.00 (assuming they are still on sale) + Free Shipping
Forged American Pride blem lower that Runner Runner Guns had on sale for $30. Picked it up when I was in Dallas on business.
Trinity Force BUIS for $19.17 (inc. shipping and tax) from Ground Zero Clearance.

AR for just under $340.00. If you want Ceratac to build the upper for you add $24.00. Still well under $400

I'm not expecting this to be a high-end gun. This is going to be the equivalent of the gun pioneers kept over the door. Something that the wife or I can grab quick if a coyote is in the chicken house or if we have uninvited guests up to no good. We don't have to worry with it getting banged around.

troglodyte wrote:BUIS = BackUp Iron Sights

Putting an AR together is pretty easy. The lower requires a couple of punches, needle nose pliers, some masking tape, a small hammer, and little ingenuity.

Some specialized tools make the job a little easier but they are not absolutely necessary.

Watch several youtube videos and you'll figure out what works for you.

The Annoyed Man wrote:While it is true that the AR prices have been inflated in recent years due to the political landscape, it is also true that in a general sense, you get what you pay for. I wouldn't tell everybody to run out and spend crazy money on an AR like I did for a very high end custom build, but I also think that when you're talking about ARs in the $300-$400 range, you're pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel. Unless all you're looking for is a beater, you're going to ultimately want to upgrade it; and depending on your starting point, those upgrades may cost you.......for items that would have been standard in a better AR.

I'm looking at that American Tactical Imports Omni Hybrid Maxx P3 on the ATI website right now. Here's the description:

Our OMNI HYBRID MAXX features a fully-patented metal reinforced polymer upper receiver along with a fully-patented metal reinforced polymer lower receiver. The Omni Hybrid lower features a patented hammer and trigger pin retainment system, preventing movement from the hammer and trigger pin during firing. The Omni Hybrid also featured our patented over-molded metal insert, which reinforces the buffer tube housing and rear takedown pin. This allows for metal-on-metal contact with both the buffer tube as well as the rear takedown pin thus increasing strength and durability from recoil and consistent firing. In addition a magazine is now included with all Omni Hybrid MAXX rifles.

Now, the first thing that comes to mind is that ATI's website is selling them for $669.95, compared to Gunbuyer's price of $369....almost half of ATI's price. So one of two things is happening. Either they are an overpriced from ATI (the manufacturer), or Gunbuyer is blowing them out to get rid of them because they're junk. That doesn't mean they ARE junk, but it sure does mean that they are only worth $369, not $670, and $369 doesn't get you anything better than a plinker.

If a plinker is all you want, then it's probably fine. But if you're buying it is to serve as your home defense weapon, then you should seriously consider spending a bit more for something you can absolutely bank on. I appreciate wanting to save money, and on my next build, I'm going to build a basic, utilitarian carbine, without going crazy on the boutique names. I figure I can get it done for around $500-$600, not counting an optic. But when the entire gun minus optic is coming in at $369, I'm suspicious of the quality.

That's just my 2¢, and worth exactly what it cost to read it.