Serbu Super Shorty 870 mag

[lunchbox]

i just saw this nice little shotgun and its a "class III"
but what i want to know is how is that not just classified as a pistol what makes it a long gun it has no stock
i mean if one was to say ammo type i would site the taurus judge "410 revolver" bad little thing too
but i had thought about carrying one of these in these 12ga bad bows eather in my truck or on me for the winter
"im big and have large coats"
but if its a short barrel class III that would make it hard to come by and would that even be a legal carry option


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... 351256#PIC

[KBCraig]

The Super-Shorty is an "AOW", "Any Other Weapon". It's not a long gun, because it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder. It's not a pistol, because it isn't designed to be fired with one hand.

It's Class III, but it transfers with a $5 AOW stamp, instead of a $200 SBS stamp.

[lunchbox]

The Super-Shorty is an "AOW", "Any Other Weapon". It's not a long gun, because it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder. It's not a pistol, because it isn't designed to be fired with one hand.

It's Class III, but it transfers with a $5 AOW stamp, instead of a $200 SBS stamp.

what does it take to get one as far as do you have to get the police chief to sighn off on it and all that

[KBCraig]

what does it take to get one as far as do you have to get the police chief to sighn off on it and all that

Same procedure and paperwork as owning anything else Class III/Title 2/NFA. You can read about it here:

http://www.class3weapons.com/class_3_fa ... apons.html

[boomerang]

A smooth bore pistol is usually considered an AOW.

[lunchbox]

so you would pay the stamp on a taurus judge ????

[Mike1951]

The Taurus Judge is not a smooth bore.

Any handgun that will fire shotgun shells must be rifled.

[lunchbox]

oh well thank you for the info
so if i took off the second handle and and added a rifled barrel that would make this all legal but it would have to be bought that way i got ya geeze these laws are just nit picky

[machinisttx]

No, it would still not be legal. It's still a 12 gauge shotgun, which means the barrel needs to be 18" long and overall length needs to be 26". If both of those requirements are not met, it falls either into the AOW category, or the SBS category, depending on how the receiver was equipped when it left the factory.

If the receiver left the factory with a buttstock attached, it could only be registered as a SBS. If the receiver left the factory with a pistol grip(or nothing) attached, it could be registered as an AOW. The difference in buying the two different NFA category firearms is the transfer tax. An AOW is only a $5 transfer tax, while the SBS is a $200 transfer tax. The tax to manufacture either one is the same, $200.

The judge, and other .45 Colt/.410 shotshell hybrids do not fall under these restrictions because they're chambered in .45 Colt and have a rifled barrel. Those two things make it a handgun, and not an AOW or SBS.

NFA weapons can be purchased without fingerprints, photographs, or CLEO signoff if they are being transferred to a trust or a corporation. Both of those two routes still require paying the transfer tax and filling out all the paperwork though, with the exceptions noted above.

[lunchbox]

what about carrying an AOW on my person if i can legally own it in the first place

[NcongruNt]

what about carrying an AOW on my person if i can legally own it in the first place

There isn't a section of the TPC that I'm aware of that prohibits it, but you should probably read through again to be sure. Also, it's likely to get you quite a hassle if you're detained in a traffic stop and the officer inquires about your weapon.