Pistol-caliber carbines (PCCs) are one of the two hottest segments in the AR industry right now (the other being pistols), and their popularity extends across several different platforms, not just rifles and pistols based on the AR-15. There are now so many PCCs on the market that you should just assume that anybody who makes an AR makes a pistol-caliber version of it, and you’ll probably be right.
Since we physically don’t have space to cover every PPC in one article, consider this a highlight reel or the CliffsNotes version of the models currently shining bright in this crowded market.
Hmmm - no mention of the Beretta CX-4?! It’s been around for only, what, SIXTEEN years. Yeah, the odd “thumbhole” stock is goofy, but I think it deserves mention because I have one and like it.
I was also disappointed that there was no discussion of revolver / lever-action combos (which I also have in .357 Magnum), that really introduced the concept in the 19th century.
E10 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:09 pm
Hmmm - no mention of the Beretta CX-4?! It’s been around for only, what, SIXTEEN years. Yeah, the odd “thumbhole” stock is goofy, but I think it deserves mention because I have one and like it.
I was also disappointed that there was no discussion of revolver / lever-action combos (which I also have in .357 Magnum), that really introduced the concept in the 19th century.
No mention of the JRC carbine which I have and it is a very good shooter!
Also no mention of the company my son works for the TNW carbines https://www.classicfirearms.com/tnw/
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Please don't judge me, but I have a Hi-Point 9mm carbine (picked it up for $75) that is really a lot of fun to shoot and reasonably accurate out to 50 yards. It is several years old and I refer to it as my "Planet of the Apes" carbine. Only real gripe I have with it is that it is a bear to disassemble and put back together.
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AF-Odin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:35 am
Please don't judge me, but I have a Hi-Point 9mm carbine (picked it up for $75) that is really a lot of fun to shoot and reasonably accurate out to 50 yards. It is several years old and I refer to it as my "Planet of the Apes" carbine. Only real gripe I have with it is that it is a bear to disassemble and put back together.
A buddy of mine who is a USAF vet has one and absolutely loves his.
AF-Odin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:35 am
Please don't judge me, but I have a Hi-Point 9mm carbine (picked it up for $75) that is really a lot of fun to shoot and reasonably accurate out to 50 yards. It is several years old and I refer to it as my "Planet of the Apes" carbine. Only real gripe I have with it is that it is a bear to disassemble and put back together.
I got a 45 cal cheap and put it in this:
now it only weighs 15 pounds but is a blast to shoot and accurate. I also got a couple of Redball 20 rnd magazines that work great.
E10 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:09 pm
Hmmm - no mention of the Beretta CX-4?! It’s been around for only, what, SIXTEEN years. Yeah, the odd “thumbhole” stock is goofy, but I think it deserves mention because I have one and like it.
I was also disappointed that there was no discussion of revolver / lever-action combos (which I also have in .357 Magnum), that really introduced the concept in the 19th century.
I have a CX-4. Love the look and feel (plus it uses the same mags as my 92). Whole family enjoys shooting it.
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E10 wrote:
Hmmm - no mention of the Beretta CX-4?! It’s been around for only, what, SIXTEEN years. Yeah, the odd “thumbhole” stock is goofy, but I think it deserves mention because I have one and like it.
I was also disappointed that there was no discussion of revolver / lever-action combos (which I also have in .357 Magnum), that really introduced the concept in the 19th century.
Nor the Keltec Sub2000.
I used to have a Sub2K a while back. I gave it to my son when I bought the PC9. The Keltec is lighter and more concealable than the PC9, and it definitely has its place in the gun world; but the PC9 is more accurate, has a better trigger, has much better sights, manages recoil better, has better ergonomics, and is sort of a "nicer" firearm all the way around.
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I honesty don't know why people waste their time and money on PCCs.
Unless your range forbids shooting 5.56 Carbines (many indoor ranges allow them now), there is no advantage to them when a 5.56 with about three times the effective range is the same size as a PCC.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
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First is my Marlin 1894 in .44 Magnum (which hangs out with my S&W 629). Probably my favorite gun to date. Depending on load (and reloading makes .44 affordable), it can go from very mild range plinking gun to a decent close in deer/hog rifle. I'm happy with it out to the 150-175yd mark. Very good little rifle for walking pastures.
I've also got a 9mm AR pistol that I put together. It's mainly for range trips and not having to carry a bunch of different types of ammo. I can toss it in the car along with a couple 9mm pistols and have fun & relatively cheap day shooting targets on pretty much any range.
My shooting buddy in Ft. Worth has the Beretta CX-4 and the Ruger PC9 and loves them both.
LeonCarr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:00 pm
I honesty don't know why people waste their time and money on PCCs.
Unless your range forbids shooting 5.56 Carbines (many indoor ranges allow them now), there is no advantage to them when a 5.56 with about three times the effective range is the same size as a PCC.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
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