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TX: No place but Austin- Pro Palestinian protest at Texas Capitol
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:22 pm
by philip964
https://www.mystatesman.com/news/local/ ... ogdF6tE4M/
Austin report on Confederate statues raises idea of changing the name of the city to someone who opposed slavery. Maybe a woman or Cesar Chavez.
Austin “also opposed an attempt by Mexico to ban slavery in the province of Tejas and said if slaves were freed, they would turn into “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace.””
Barton Springs would have to be renamed as he was a slave holder and a whole bunch of street names changed to sanitize the city of its history.
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:27 pm
by OneGun
Slavery was part of our history. It was not a highlight, but it is our history. We own it. Re-writing our history will not fix anything except make Liberals feel good.
Forgetting our history will make us repeat history. Remember the holocaust? It took a world force to stop genocide. So, why does the world tolerate genocide in other parts of the world today?
We should never forget!
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:26 pm
by AF-Odin
What is next, re-naming Washington DC and state because George Washington was a slave owner. What about everything else maned for him as well as Thomas Jefferson????? Wasn't Sam Houston also a slave owner? This has got to stop.
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:38 pm
by srothstein
I saw this article and I am left wondering if there is someone left in Austin who put this in as an attempt to show the rest of them just how ridiculous this whitewashing of history really is. I cannot think, even in Austin, that this is a serious proposal, which left me guessing it was someone who was trying to point out that we are trying to impose today's standards on people who lived in another time. You can even see the mention of society's values being fluid as a warning that this will happen again. There is also the warning of a lack of democratic process in there. Those could be taken as excuses for how the city got into this situation or warnings that it will happen again, no matter who we name the streets/parks/monuments after.
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:00 pm
by The Annoyed Man
srothstein wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:38 pm
I saw this article and I am left wondering if there is someone left in Austin who put this in as an attempt to show the rest of them just how ridiculous this whitewashing of history really is. I cannot think, even in Austin, that this is a serious proposal, which left me guessing it was someone who was trying to point out that we are trying to impose today's standards on people who lived in another time. You can even see the mention of society's values being fluid as a warning that this will happen again. There is also the warning of a lack of democratic process in there. Those could be taken as excuses for how the city got into this situation or warnings that it will happen again, no matter who we name the streets/parks/monuments after.
I posted this same article on facebook just this morning, and the suggestion to change the city’s name came from
within the commission that is tasked with looking into renaming monuments, parks, schools, etc.
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:34 pm
by C-dub
OneGun wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:27 pm
Slavery was part of our history. It was not a highlight, but it is our history. We own it. Re-writing our history will not fix anything except make Liberals feel good.
Forgetting our history will make us repeat history. Remember the holocaust? It took a world force to stop genocide. So, why does the world tolerate genocide in other parts of the world today?
We should never forget!
We don't even own slavery. On the scale of the history of slavery we, the United States, are only one teeny tiny sliver, compared to the rest of the world and hopefully very near the end of that scale. Comparatively, we were just a blip when we had it and got rid of it in this country. It is still going on in other parts of the world today. However, many would never know this if they only listen to the liberal side.
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:41 pm
by Bitter Clinger
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:50 pm
by srothstein
The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:00 pm
srothstein wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:38 pm
I saw this article and I am left wondering if there is someone left in Austin who put this in as an attempt to show the rest of them just how ridiculous this whitewashing of history really is. I cannot think, even in Austin, that this is a serious proposal, which left me guessing it was someone who was trying to point out that we are trying to impose today's standards on people who lived in another time. You can even see the mention of society's values being fluid as a warning that this will happen again. There is also the warning of a lack of democratic process in there. Those could be taken as excuses for how the city got into this situation or warnings that it will happen again, no matter who we name the streets/parks/monuments after.
I posted this same article on facebook just this morning, and the suggestion to change the city’s name came from
within the commission that is tasked with looking into renaming monuments, parks, schools, etc.
Sorry, TAM. Yes, I was thinking there might actually be one member of the commission in Austin that still had a shred of common sense. That really is hard to imagine knowing Austin as I do, but I thought it might be possible.
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:34 pm
by dlh
I will guess who is on this commission---leftist professor from University of Texas...community organizer....and retired dem. politician...
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:46 pm
by The Annoyed Man
srothstein wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:50 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:00 pm
srothstein wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:38 pm
I saw this article and I am left wondering if there is someone left in Austin who put this in as an attempt to show the rest of them just how ridiculous this whitewashing of history really is. I cannot think, even in Austin, that this is a serious proposal, which left me guessing it was someone who was trying to point out that we are trying to impose today's standards on people who lived in another time. You can even see the mention of society's values being fluid as a warning that this will happen again. There is also the warning of a lack of democratic process in there. Those could be taken as excuses for how the city got into this situation or warnings that it will happen again, no matter who we name the streets/parks/monuments after.
I posted this same article on facebook just this morning, and the suggestion to change the city’s name came from
within the commission that is tasked with looking into renaming monuments, parks, schools, etc.
Sorry, TAM. Yes, I was thinking there might actually be one member of the commission in Austin that still had a shred of common sense. That really is hard to imagine knowing Austin as I do, but I thought it might be possible.
It’s hard to frame the whole thing in terms other than disappointingly stupid, isn’t it?
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:37 pm
by apostate
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:01 am
by ScottDLS
I recommend “Bob”. I think the Canadians in what used to be Northwest Territories had that as a ballot choice for naming. They ended up going with a First Peoples (I.e.Eskimo”) name...Nanunavik or something...
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:29 am
by Pawpaw
They'll probably vote to rename it "Sacramento".
Re: TX: No place but Austin
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:36 am
by SewTexas
My husband's suggestion is that they threw the renaming of the city in there so that the rest of the renaming seems "reasonable" in comparison, and they look good when they say "No, we're not renaming our city".
