A group of militiamen have occupied a wildlife refuge in Oregon, it has been reported.
The self-proclaimed “patriots”, say they have around 150 members stationed in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, The Oregonian reports. Their leader has reportedly informed local press that the men are planning to stay in the refuge indefinitely and are “willing to kill or be killed” to do so.
Militia standoff going on right now in Oregon!
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Oregon occupation: Militia 'willing to kill or be killed' occupy US wildlife reserve
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I've been following this one. 2 men served time for arson stemming from clearing land to clear invasive weeds and avoid wildfires. One served 4 months and one served 1 year. Judge says it wasn't long enough so ordered both men back to jail to serve 4 years each. They will both peacefully report to prison on Jan 4th for the new prison term...
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Saw this earlier this morning. Not sure what to think of it yet.
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The two guys, brothers, were convicted of arson because they burned off some brush on their own land? Or does the fed think it is public/fed/BLM land?
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Ron Paul approves of this protest.
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I think it was a father and son (one is 73 the other is 46).C-dub wrote:The two guys, brothers, were convicted of arson because they burned off some brush on their own land? Or does the fed think it is public/fed/BLM land?
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Maybe it was this that threw me off.
The brothers have been convicted of arson but maintain that they were entitled to set fire to land as they were doing so to reduce growth of invasive plants and protecting their property from the threat of wildfires
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Got to love reporters:C-dub wrote:Maybe it was this that threw me off.
The brothers have been convicted of arson but maintain that they were entitled to set fire to land as they were doing so to reduce growth of invasive plants and protecting their property from the threat of wildfires
"Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires. The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time — the father three months, the son one year."
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How is it that a judge can add time after a sentence has been completed.
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Maybe violation of probationmamabearCali wrote:How is it that a judge can add time after a sentence has been completed.
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They were convicted of arson for setting fire to Federal land that bordered theirs. This was while firefighters were battling another wildfire that was burning nearby, & reportedly their fire put them at risk.C-dub wrote:The two guys, brothers, were convicted of arson because they burned off some brush on their own land? Or does the fed think it is public/fed/BLM land?
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An appeals court judge found that the original judge didn't follow the sentencing guidelines he was required to use, & gave less than the minimum sentence. Both father & son say they'll report back to complete the new sentences, and said that they don't want the militia's 'assistance' on this.mamabearCali wrote:How is it that a judge can add time after a sentence has been completed.
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Wasn't this Bundy guy involved in another standoff in the past couple of years on his ranch with the BLM?
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Yes its the same guy.