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With season 2 starting, I just couldn't help myself.

OK, how about a little less inscrutability for the rest of us?

Sleepy Hollow

I'm taxed too much. I'd like to be taxed less.
How do we pay back the Trillions that we're already spent?

We don't.....if you think we will ever repay it you are sadly mistaken.

cb1000rider wrote:I'm taxed too much. I'd like to be taxed less.
How do we pay back the Trillions that we're already spent?

Impossible unless there's a Reset Button.

simianangel wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:I'm taxed too much. I'd like to be taxed less.
How do we pay back the Trillions that we're already spent?

Impossible unless there's a Reset Button.

Require the federal government to pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution.

cb1000rider wrote:I'm taxed too much. I'd like to be taxed less.
How do we pay back the Trillions that we're already spent?

What do you mean "we" paleface?

I did not spend that money.

I live within my means.

When the spigot runs dry and the gibs-me-dat orcs go on a rampage they can go collect from the ones that promised it to them.

Anygunanywhere

Some interesting real history on that show, mixed with fantasy. I've been pleasantly surprised by some of the lines spoken by Mr. Crane.

the problem with that Crane line there is that it wasn't the tax that was the problem, it was that the colonies were not allowed by the crown to have any say in what happened to them as opposed to the subjects in the physical UK who did have a method of redress(not that it worked) but it did exist, the colonies being disallowed even the simplest form of representation within the British government against the tax paid was the problem

anygunanywhere wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:I'm taxed too much. I'd like to be taxed less.
How do we pay back the Trillions that we're already spent?

What do you mean "we" paleface?

I did not spend that money.

I live within my means.

When the spigot runs dry and the gibs-me-dat orcs go on a rampage they can go collect from the ones that promised it to them.

Anygunanywhere

It will be interesting to see what happens when the underfunded government pensions run dry. It probably won't be pleasant. Natural laws have no pity.

It is the same reason you don't feed a coyote or a bear...,,,eventually they stop feeding themselves then they look to you to provide the food and if you don't you become the food.

bayouhazard wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:I'm taxed too much. I'd like to be taxed less.
How do we pay back the Trillions that we're already spent?

What do you mean "we" paleface?

I did not spend that money.

I live within my means.

When the spigot runs dry and the gibs-me-dat orcs go on a rampage they can go collect from the ones that promised it to them.

Anygunanywhere

It will be interesting to see what happens when the underfunded government pensions run dry. It probably won't be pleasant. Natural laws have no pity.

Government pensions aren't the only ones underfunded.

Most Federal Government retirement is now in Thrift Savings Plans anyway.

Sorry to spoil your day.

The "Better Call Saul" link in the Breaking Bad thread reminded me of this.

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anygunanywhere wrote: What do you mean "we" paleface?
I did not spend that money.
I live within my means.
When the spigot runs dry and the gibs-me-dat orcs go on a rampage they can go collect from the ones that promised it to them.
Anygunanywhere

I didn't spend it either. I'll wager that we're both responsible for electing someone that helped spend it. Democrat or Republican, it spend-pandering seems to be the basis of our political system. It's just that the Republicans are usually less prolific about it.

Some amount of it was spent on national "defense" - meaning foreign wars. That wasn't your decision or mine, but just because we weren't asked doesn't absolve us of the responsibility to pay for it.

I understand the frustration, but saying "I didn't spend it" doesn't change the reality of our national debt.

I'm all for tea-party lower taxes, no spending, cleaning up the government... However, I know the difference between continued rhetoric (which means business as usual post-election) and someone who might shake something up. A real radical would admit to the cold reality of our situation and provide a plan for us to get out of it... Which might mean MORE taxes short term if accompanied by some pretty hard legislation around spending rules going forward.

Anyone who says they can decrease the debt by decreasing taxes and making up the difference via clean up of government waste and "smaller government" - they're selling the same thing that's been sold for the last 40+ years. That's how we got here.

It's got to be really easy as a politician to vote for a bill that provides constituents benefits and is popular. They don't have to be paid for today and the reality of getting those benefits paid will usually fall on future political leaders (and later generations of taxable constituents)....