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The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.
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JJVP wrote:
The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... ourt-order" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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NSA, DOJ, IRS, ATF...my word...it's a mad house washingtons running.
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Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

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surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

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I suspect it's not just Verizon. Verizon resisted the order and the story came about because a court ruled against it. There's no mention of companies that simply complied.
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Excaliber wrote:
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

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I suspect it's not just Verizon. Verizon resisted the order and the story came about because a court ruled against it. There's no mention of companies that simply complied.
Good point. That had not occurred to me.
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They changed the plaque on the Statue of Liberty.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses So we can show them the face of tyranny!
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1st Amendment: Gone
2nd Amendment: Gone
4th Amendment: Gone
10th Amendment: Long Gone
Constitution: Shredded

Tyranny ushered in with a round of applause! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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suthdj wrote:They changed the plaque on the Statue of Liberty.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses So we can show them the face of tyranny!

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jayinsat wrote:1st Amendment: Gone
2nd Amendment: Gone
4th Amendment: Gone
10th Amendment: Long Gone
Constitution: Shredded

Tyranny ushered in with a round of applause! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
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Abraham wrote:I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
But then there's the occasional nugget...."You know Joe, that buffoon in the oval office is a fascist so and so, and he's going to get us all killed. After all, he targets American citizens with drones, using a policy that does not specifically bar such actions inside of the United States."

I've had plenty of those kinds of conversations with friends of mine. Does anybody seriously think that people like me haven't been bumped from the "general filtration" list to the "merits further spying upon" list? And I'm a Verizon customer by the way. I am due for a phone upgrade this month, and my wife is due in September. I'm seriously considering switching carriers and phone numbers anyway at this point, due to some general dissatisfaction issues with Verizon. Maybe it's time to give due consideration to other reasons in my decision making.

Are AT&T and the other providers any more or less cooperative with the 4th Reich than Verizon? It's a powerful incentive to start restricting such conversations to face-to-face encounters in areas reasonably secure from goobermint intrusion....
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
Abraham wrote:I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
But then there's the occasional nugget...."You know Joe, that buffoon in the oval office is a fascist so and so, and he's going to get us all killed. After all, he targets American citizens with drones, using a policy that does not specifically bar such actions inside of the United States."

I've had plenty of those kinds of conversations with friends of mine. Does anybody seriously think that people like me haven't been bumped from the "general filtration" list to the "merits further spying upon" list? And I'm a Verizon customer by the way. I am due for a phone upgrade this month, and my wife is due in September. I'm seriously considering switching carriers and phone numbers anyway at this point, due to some general dissatisfaction issues with Verizon. Maybe it's time to give due consideration to other reasons in my decision making.

Are AT&T and the other providers any more or less cooperative with the 4th Reich than Verizon? It's a powerful incentive to start restricting such conversations to face-to-face encounters in areas reasonably secure from goobermint intrusion....
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patriot act really has been abused and abused, fox was just reporting that the PRES (current one) signed off on widening the cell snooping
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
Abraham wrote:I pity the poor government worker bees stunned into boredom listening to all that chatter...yes, I found the cutest shoes, yep, I just chopped out a stump with my old axe, well mother-in-law is such a...blah, blah, blah...
But then there's the occasional nugget...."You know Joe, that buffoon in the oval office is a fascist so and so, and he's going to get us all killed. After all, he targets American citizens with drones, using a policy that does not specifically bar such actions inside of the United States."

I've had plenty of those kinds of conversations with friends of mine. Does anybody seriously think that people like me haven't been bumped from the "general filtration" list to the "merits further spying upon" list? And I'm a Verizon customer by the way. I am due for a phone upgrade this month, and my wife is due in September. I'm seriously considering switching carriers and phone numbers anyway at this point, due to some general dissatisfaction issues with Verizon. Maybe it's time to give due consideration to other reasons in my decision making.

Are AT&T and the other providers any more or less cooperative with the 4th Reich than Verizon? It's a powerful incentive to start restricting such conversations to face-to-face encounters in areas reasonably secure from goobermint intrusion....
Yes. Yes they are. Verizon is the one who was resisting and has now been ordered to comply by the court of law. Welcome to the USSA. :patriot:
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Excaliber wrote:
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Why just Verizon? Are they offering a special "jihadi" plan? :-)

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I suspect it's not just Verizon. Verizon resisted the order and the story came about because a court ruled against it. There's no mention of companies that simply complied.
Since all electronic communication companies exist at the pleasure of the FCC, I'm sure they will comply in one form or another.
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