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Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:55 am
by israel67
..leaving aside the awful Latinization of the plural of 'Rabbi', I found the use of the word 'sheep' in this one quite interesting...

http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/rabbis-guns
Meet the members of the "International security coalition of Clergy", which is part of the "Tzedek Task Force on Counter Terrorism".

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:58 am
by Purplehood
That is the most amusing pic I have seen in a while. It reminded me of a "Charlies Angels" poster.

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:17 pm
by BobCat
Scary picture - muzzles sweeping each other, finger on the trigger - they need training.

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:01 pm
by TDDude
I would think it would be the congregations job to defend itself. The picture actually looks like a joke and maybe it is. I'm all for pastors and Rabbi(s) getting training though.

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:21 pm
by nitrogen
BobCat wrote:Scary picture - muzzles sweeping each other, finger on the trigger - they need training.
I dont think that guy in the middle back was sweeping; it looks like it due to poor perspective though.

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:06 pm
by WildBill
A couple of the guns look fake. The muzzles on two of the pistols and the shotgun look like they have a red or orange color.

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:34 pm
by ELB
If you google on "Tzedek Task Force on Counter Terrorism" or "International Security Coalition of Clergy" you will get a number of references, especially to the first term ("Tzedek...").

Here's another article on them:
http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news/sh ... abbis-guns" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://matzav.com/shul-security-and-the ... with-guns/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From my quick read about Rabbi Moscowitz, he is probably not very shy and may go for "shock value" with the photo... ;-)

A couple of the guns do look odd, but just because they may be realistic toys doesn't mean the whole thing is a set up. Fake guns are often used in training. Who knows, being New York it may be difficult to purchase an actual "blue gun" for training. For that matter, good luck to these guys trying to get real guns to protect their turf.

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:44 pm
by israel67
An interesting comment on that second link..
This is not the Judaism I grew up in where we had respect
I've never heard mainstream Judaism mention guns as being 'disrespectful'. Indeed, every Jew has the obligation to protect his life and that of others. :mad5

Re: Rabbis with guns ..

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:12 am
by surprise_i'm_armed
If they are Orthodox, they will have to keep kosher by using only Desert Eagles. :_)

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"and he stopped off in Tuska at the pop knife and gun place
bought a SKS rifle and a couple full cases of that steel core ammo
with the berdan primers from some east bloc nation
that no longer needs em
and a Desert Eagle that's one great big old pistol
I mean fifty caliber made by bad*** Hebrews."

From the great song "Choctaw Bingo" by James McMurty about
a family trip to Oklahoma.

SIA