Exactly, "Zimmerman claims." Which means exactly nothing.WildBill wrote:Mr. Zimmerman claims that he [the yout] was acting like he was under the influence of drugs and was reaching for something in his waistband.drjoker wrote:What made the kid suspicious? He was not breaking in. He was not doing anything illegal.
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I have to give you some props for the attempt at playing the race card but maybe you should have done more research before making a racist assumption based on his name. It turns out George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.matriculated wrote:Zimmerman thought Trayvon was "suspicious" for some reason (what 17yo black kid isn't suspicious nowadays to the Zimmermans of the world?).
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And?Bart wrote:I have to give you some props for the attempt at playing the race card but maybe you should have done more research before making a racist assumption based on his name. It turns out George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.matriculated wrote:Zimmerman thought Trayvon was "suspicious" for some reason (what 17yo black kid isn't suspicious nowadays to the Zimmermans of the world?).
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Are you done patting yourself on the back? I've known for several days that Zimmerman was Hispanic, thank you very much. It came out pretty soon after the story hit the news. So let me get you straight: Only white people can be prejudiced? That sounds like some prejudice on your part. I also like how you latch onto an off-handed remark out of everything I wrote and think GOTCHA! What's your opinion about the actual circumstances here? You think that Zimmerman's actions were A-OK?Bart wrote:I have to give you some props for the attempt at playing the race card but maybe you should have done more research before making a racist assumption based on his name. It turns out George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.matriculated wrote:Zimmerman thought Trayvon was "suspicious" for some reason (what 17yo black kid isn't suspicious nowadays to the Zimmermans of the world?).
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Some people think police should have evidence before they lock up suspects. Some people don't.Bart wrote:Ignore this specific case for a moment and explain what the police should do as a general rule when somebody tells them something and there's no evidence to doubt their story.
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Hey Matriculated one:matriculated wrote:Are you done patting yourself on the back? I've known for several days that Zimmerman was Hispanic, thank you very much. It came out pretty soon after the story hit the news. So let me get you straight: Only white people can be prejudiced? That sounds like some prejudice on your part. I also like how you latch onto an off-handed remark out of everything I wrote and think GOTCHA! What's your opinion about the actual circumstances here? You think that Zimmerman's actions were A-OK?Bart wrote:I have to give you some props for the attempt at playing the race card but maybe you should have done more research before making a racist assumption based on his name. It turns out George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.matriculated wrote:Zimmerman thought Trayvon was "suspicious" for some reason (what 17yo black kid isn't suspicious nowadays to the Zimmermans of the world?).
Everyone, including you, is prejudiced to one degree or another in one direction or another. Why not get off your self-righteous high horse and chill a bit, eh?
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Self-righteous. I do not think that word means what you think it means.Oldgringo wrote:Hey Matriculated one:
Everyone, including you, is prejudiced to one degree or another in one direction or another. Why not get off your self-righteous high horse and chill a bit, eh?
Either way, you're derailing the thread. The topic is the shooting, not me.
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Good, let's keep it that way...if that's okay with you?matriculated wrote:Self-righteous. I do not think that word means what you think it means.Oldgringo wrote:Hey Matriculated one:
Everyone, including you, is prejudiced to one degree or another in one direction or another. Why not get off your self-righteous high horse and chill a bit, eh?
Either way, you're derailing the thread. The topic is the shooting, not me.
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I'm not sure what you think you just accomplished But yes, definitely fine with meOldgringo wrote:Good, let's keep it that way...if that's okay with you?matriculated wrote:Self-righteous. I do not think that word means what you think it means.Oldgringo wrote:Hey Matriculated one:
Everyone, including you, is prejudiced to one degree or another in one direction or another. Why not get off your self-righteous high horse and chill a bit, eh?
Either way, you're derailing the thread. The topic is the shooting, not me.
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What exactly did you mean by "the Zimmermans of the world" in your post? That should be an easy question if you're not a troll.
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OK folks, keep this thread tone in a civil manner, quit throwing barbs and play nicely or it will be locked.
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Maybe it should be locked if he keeps bashing the cops. As if he knows more about the shooting than they do.
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Show me where I "bashed" the cops and I'll give you arubio wrote:Maybe it should be locked if he keeps bashing the cops. As if he knows more about the shooting than they do.
Sanford PD is wrong on this one. <-- Not bashing. Expressing an opinion on the topic at hand.
We have a taped confession of a crime in the form of Zimmerman's call to the Sanford PD, yet the man is still out and walking around free.
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Where do you get a confession of a crime out of the recording of the call? I don't think there is anything illegal about following someone which is all we know that Zimmerman did at this point. Everything else is purely speculation.matriculated wrote:Show me where I "bashed" the cops and I'll give you arubio wrote:Maybe it should be locked if he keeps bashing the cops. As if he knows more about the shooting than they do.
Sanford PD is wrong on this one. <-- Not bashing. Expressing an opinion on the topic at hand.
We have a taped confession of a crime in the form of Zimmerman's call to the Sanford PD, yet the man is still out and walking around free.
For all we know Zimmerman followed this kid (bad idea obviously, but almost certainly not illegal) and Martin attacked Zimmerman leading to ZImmerman defending himself. But we don't know, which is key here. The police should finish their investigation and I think everyone needs to calm down and let them do this