APD Shot and killed buddy's dog

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Re: APD Shot and killed buddy's dog

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sugar land dave wrote:For those who attack me personally, you prove my point. Dogs can bring forth strong emotions. I just do not discount fear produced in others. An LEO should not have to suffer a bite or potential thereof. I recognize him as human with the ability to fear and make mistakes. If one should shoot my dogs, I will grieve, but I will not rage. As for my intellect, it is north of 150, but I like to say that I am just as smart as I need to be. In this case, it means not engaging in a fruitless internet squabble over something which does not personally involve me. Sticks and stones may break my bones......

I rescue dogs and find good homes for them even though I am not a member of any animal group. My own dogs are controlled within a 7 foot privacy fence which I personally built to surround all but my front door. They dogs have space to roam on my property while allowing visitors safe access to visit me. I rescued them as pups and never taught them to bite. The yard dog will not bark unless someone enters inside of his fence. He has been trained by me not to charge anyone or jump up on them even though he is a big 90 pound dog. The inside 12 pound dog has the same training. My dogs do not even fear or cower from fireworks and thunder. I took the time to teach them to be the dogs I expected to be. In return, I spoil them gloriously.

In spite of my love for dogs, I will still not choose them over my fellow man in all his glory of strength and weakness. Accidents happen. Mistakes happen. Intellect or Emotion? It's an intriguing question for me I choose one, but another chooses me. Paradox.
Wow, "north" of 150.....too modest to proclaim yourself a genius? We all may be suitably impressed, but you still said in essence that everyone who doesn't see it the way you do is responding emotionally, not intellectually, like you. So while it's true you didn't single anyone out, you insulted everyone who disagrees with you, in a condescending manner that you just repeated with your reference to your IQ. Your IQ is "north" of 150, so you must automatically be right? Please, if that's not your intention in citing your IQ, explain it to us. Also, your classification of a dog as mere property, and the suggestion that when a LEO kills a dog one should just go out and get another one, as if a dog is interchangeable like a TV set, isn't at all "smart," it's just patronizing, ludicrous, and insulting. By your own proclamation, you're way too smart not to understand all this.
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sugar land dave wrote:As for my intellect, it is north of 150,
:smilelol5:
sugar land dave wrote:...but I like to say that I am just as smart as I need to be.
"rlol"

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Re: APD Shot and killed buddy's dog

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sugar land dave wrote:For those who attack me personally, you prove my point. Dogs can bring forth strong emotions. I just do not discount fear produced in others. An LEO should not have to suffer a bite or potential thereof. I recognize him as human with the ability to fear and make mistakes.
Well then, if were talking logically instead of emotinally, then a ciitzen should not have to suffer a bite or potential bite from a police dog. Following the same logical standard of conduct.

Logic is logic. A human is a human. And a dog is a dog.
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Re: APD Shot and killed buddy's dog

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My intellect was questioned in an earlier post, so I responded. One should not ask a question if an answer might not be agreeable. What should be understood is that I am not better than someone, merely different. Good or bad can be your own personal opinion. Even the president is disliked by half the people.

I am smart enough to be on topic; Smart enough to know the difference between a home dog and a police dog who has been given LEO status by government; Smart enough to not care about a man's politics, religion, creed, ethnicity, or any of the other trappings which separate men from communication. If anyone wishes to feel some resentment toward me, it shall be one sided. I respect the right to agree or disagree with me. It is called free speech.

My free speech is that I value a LEO or good guy over any of my dogs, no matter how much I love them.
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Re: APD Shot and killed buddy's dog

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OK, last warning. Stop with jabs, both of you.
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sugar land dave wrote:My intellect was questioned in an earlier post, so I responded. One should not ask a question if an answer might not be agreeable. What should be understood is that I am not better than someone, merely different. Good or bad can be your own personal opinion. Even the president is disliked by half the people.

I am smart enough to be on topic; Smart enough to know the difference between a home dog and a police dog who has been given LEO status by government; Smart enough to not care about a man's politics, religion, creed, ethnicity, or any of the other trappings which separate men from communication. If anyone wishes to feel some resentment toward me, it shall be one sided. I respect the right to agree or disagree with me. It is called free speech.

My free speech is that I value a LEO or good guy over any of my dogs, no matter how much I love them.
Dave, let me humbly try to put this to you as follows: Since you're obviously a man of considerable intellect, I'll try to use logical thinking and phrasing. I believe the logical fallacy you're committing is called a strawman. See that highlighted section of your quote up there? That's your strawman. You're arguing against a position that nobody has taken. Of course a human life is more valuable than a dog's life. But I haven't seen anyone in this thread seriously argue otherwise. This thread is about unnecessary, negligent, and otherwise faulty shootings of family pets. Your initial post in this thread seemed to suggest that people who might find themselves slightly upset at having their harmless pet negligently shot by a LEO were just feeble-minded people incapable of controlling their emotions. That's the majority of people in this thread, BTW. I would respectfully suggest to you that maybe, perhaps, just a lil' bit, that may have come across as condescending. And also, you know, wrong. It's not often I get to exchange words with an IQ of 150+ so I really do appreciate any wisdom you might impart on me or other humble denizens here. I value your opinion and it is my hope that everyone here can keep their emotions in check and remain civil as we talk about this issue.
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