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New information has come out. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/s ... n-03232012" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.
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baldeagle wrote:New information has come out. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/s ... n-03232012" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.
Not sure if this is true, but it was posted in the comments section. I heard about several time about Zimmerman outweighing Trayvon, but 6'3" is pretty tall.

Couple details not mentioned by the lamestreamed media: George Zimmerman is 5'2" and 250 lbs, Trayvon was a 6'3" athletic kid. Clearly, Trayvon had the physique to overwhelm and attack Zimmerman, which he did what he could do to defend himself: shoot the attacking thug.
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:deadhorse:, no pun intended. :smilelol5:
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Oldgringo wrote::deadhorse:, no pun intended. :smilelol5:
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Does anyone know what gun and type of ammunition Zimmerman was carrying? Whatever else you think about the shooting, It sounds like it was a one shot stop.

In addition, it sounds like Martin expired before the EMTs arrived, even though multiple neighbors had 911 on the phone when the shot was fired. If you haven't already, maybe this is a good time to think about ability to render self-aid until the EMTs come.
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I heard it was a kel tec 9mm. This case is real muddy. But the additional witness, and the wounds to mr. Zimmerman at least tell us why he was not arrested. Guess we had just all better sit tight here. Too bad the screaming sillies like al won't do the same.
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WildBill wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:This incident has been blown so far out of proportion that innocents or guilt mean nothing now. It is being used by politicians and others for publicity. I don’t know if Mr. Zimmerman is innocent or guilty but I am concerned that he could be arrested on trumped up charges to appease certain people. I also wonder if he could get a fair trial. It is unusual for the POTUS to comment on a case simply because the defendant’s lawyer can claim he/she cannot possibly get a fair trial.

If he is guilty of a crime he should receive the appropriate punishment but he should not be railroaded to appease public opinion.
:iagree: I don't know of any case where the indictment was dismissed because the defendant could not get a fair trial. I know there have been many changes of venue, but if you know of any cases where the charges were dismissed and the defendant was not tried, I would be glad to read about them.
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I will try to find and post the incident but I do remember a president making remarks on a case and basically stated the defendant was guilty. There was a huge flap over this and the defendants lawyer tried to use this. Don’t remember the outcome. :headscratch
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Looks like we now have a witness that backs up Zimmerman's version.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/s ... n-03232012

I for one am keeping my eye on this case.
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VoiceofReason wrote:They say that when you get old, your memory starts to go. I believe that old people just have so much more to remember. :lol:

I will try to find and post the incident but I do remember a president making remarks on a case and basically stated the defendant was guilty. There was a huge flap over this and the defendants lawyer tried to use this. Don’t remember the outcome. :headscratch
I vaguely remember that too. I want to say it was Reagan, but ??? :smilelol5:
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Members of a self-described black militia group will attempt a citizen's arrest on a white neighborhood watch leader who has admitted to fatally shooting an unarmed African-American teen in an Orlando suburb, but has not been charged, a leader of the group said Thursday.
http://www.thegrio.com/news/black-milit ... hooter.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I just can’t see this guy getting any kind of justice. The FBI is looking into it and since the POTUS has already so much as stated he thinks it was a racial killing, I imagine the FBI will find something to please the “boss”.

If it was not a just shoot, he should pay. If it was, and even if he is found not guilty in a court, there will be people that won’t accept the verdict and he will be hounded the rest of his life. It also sounds to me like the guy’s lawyer leaves a lot to be desired.
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TDDude wrote:Looks like we now have a witness that backs up Zimmerman's version.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/s ... n-03232012

I for one am keeping my eye on this case.
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This witness who apparently was at the scene originally when police arrived said the man screaming was Zimmerman and that Trayvon was on top of him beating him.

So obviously the problem here is that people being beaten should not have the opportunity to shoot their attackers. If there were no guns, Trayvon would be alive today.
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WildBill wrote:
baldeagle wrote:New information has come out. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/s ... n-03232012" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.
Not sure if this is true, but it was posted in the comments section. I heard about several time about Zimmerman outweighing Trayvon, but 6'3" is pretty tall.

Couple details not mentioned by the lamestreamed media: George Zimmerman is 5'2" and 250 lbs, Trayvon was a 6'3" athletic kid. Clearly, Trayvon had the physique to overwhelm and attack Zimmerman, which he did what he could do to defend himself: shoot the attacking thug.
So he is a "thug" because he is black, I assume thats what your saying, as I'm sure that if you were followed by someone late at night you wouldn't feel threatened at all nor take any actions to defend yourself.
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Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Linked instead of embedded image. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**

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pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**
Yep! Looks like a thug to me! Shirtless, double bird flipping, pants sagging thug! Has nothing to do with skin color - everything to do with poor parenting and a general disrespect for others.

So much for the whole size debate. 6'2" 170 lb 10% body fat (if that) beats 5'2" 250 lb pillsberry doughboy everyday of the week.
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pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**
The one in the picture on the right is not the same dead Trayvon Martin.
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