Duck Dynasty Star Kicked Out of Trump Hotel—Facial Profiling

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Duck Dynasty Star Kicked Out of Trump Hotel
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Duck Dynasty star Jase Robertson was kicked out of New York City’s Trump International Hotel after a staff member apparently thought he was homeless. Robertson laughed it off and said he was the victim of “facial profiling.”

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“I asked them where the bathroom was and he said, ‘Right this way, sir,’” Robertson told the hosts of the television show ‘Live with Kelly and Michael.’ “He said, ‘Right this way, sir.’ He walked me outside, pointed down the road and said, ‘Good luck.’”

The hosts appeared stunned by the story – but Robertson smiled and said he took it in stride.

“I think it was a facial profiling deal,” he said.
"rlol" "rlol" "rlol" :smilelol5:

One of the Robertson brothers, Al, said that's why he goes beardless. Says "it's not my first rodeo." :lol:

Aaaahhhh.....that was good for a laugh.
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My new girlfriend "made" me watch that show for the first time recently. It is so contrived and silly that I just loved it.
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Purplehood wrote:My new girlfriend "made" me watch that show for the first time recently. It is so contrived and silly that I just loved it.
Oh it's hilarious alright. And yes, it is contrived and silly, but it also makes me feel good about being a bit of a redneck with core conservative values.
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ive been watching their hunting videos years before the "reality" tv show came out. I love the videos but don't like the show that much because there's pretty much no hunting. All this from the guy actually wearing a duck commander shirt typing this :lol:
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Just to show the difference in the class of some people:

Oprah makes a huge ordeal about a woman not showing her a purse because the sales persons thought she couldn't afford it.

Jase laughs off the hotel employee and completely understands how the mistake could be made.
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If you want to play the victim card, nothing can stop you! OTOH, if you realize that life is just funny, that stuff happens, and we are only here temporarily...you just go with it. I feel sorry for the people who take themselves so seriously!

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bcschae wrote:Just to show the difference in the class of some people:

Oprah makes a huge ordeal about a woman not showing her a purse because the sales persons thought she couldn't afford it.

Jase laughs off the hotel employee and completely understands how the mistake could be made.
I think the difference is Oprah thinks its her right to be treated that way and gets very offended if not and becomes very emotional. Jase don't care, is more tolerant, and thinks what a jerk, without being offended and getting highly emotional about it..
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bcschae wrote:Just to show the difference in the class of some people:

Oprah makes a huge ordeal about a woman not showing her a purse because the sales persons thought she couldn't afford it.

Jase laughs off the hotel employee and completely understands how the mistake could be made.
I think the difference is Oprah thinks its her right to be treated that way and gets very offended if not and becomes very emotional. Jase don't care, is more tolerant, and thinks what a jerk, without being offended and getting highly emotional about it..
It goes further than that. Jase laughs it off, and says that if he were in the employee's shoes, he might have done the same thing. He didn't think the other guy was a jerk, and he hoped that the other guy wouldn't get in trouble for it. That's true forgiveness.

There is one subtle difference between Jase and Oprah though, and that is that Jase can shave off his beard and get a haircut anytime he wants to, and he'll be like his brother Al, whom nobody ever bothers because he looks "normal." But Oprah can't take off her blackness, and her politics, wealth, fame, social stature all have nothing to do with how she will be treated by people who don't know who she is. Some, because they are not racists, will treat her fairly and without any preconceived notions of her financial state; and others, because they are subconscious bigots, will do like the woman who inadvertently insulted her by trying to steer her to a less expensive item. Jase can walk in that hotel the next day, all cleaned up, and have a good laugh with the doorman who tossed him, and say "can you believe that I'm the same guy you threw out of here yesterday because of my beard, and today you're opening doors for me?" Oprah walks into that store the next day, and she's still the same black woman of whom some people are going to assume based on her color that she can't afford to buy whatever she wants to buy......and she'll be treated accordingly. There is no avenue of escape for her from that.

I don't like the woman. But I don't like her because I think she's a useful idiot for the left, and her great wealth empowers her idiocy to a much greater degree than than the more pedestrian garden variety useful idiot. But her politics and wrongness aside, I can totally understand her offense at being indirectly insulted because of her race by a subconscious bigot.......even though that bigot probably thought they were doing the nice thing. Jace can afford to be gracious, because he knows that it is his own decisions about dress and grooming that result in some people mischaracterizing him. It is within his power to change that any time he gets tired of other people's misperceptions about his social stature. It is not within Oprah's power to change her situation, although her enormous wealth certainly insulates her somewhat from racism's most vile expressions.

So if she reacts ungraciously to the unintentional soft bigotry of a sales clerk in a high-priced boutique, it's probably because she's just real tired after 59 years of putting up with it. In a perfect world, she should be gracious and forgiving about it.....but we don't live in a perfect world, and she's just human. In forgiving the hotel doorman and laughing the whole thing off, Jase is just acting out his Christian faith. I have no idea of exactly what Oprah believes in, but her adoration of Deepak Chopra tells me that she is not a Bible believing Christian—so maybe she is spiritually unable to forgive that easily. I don't know. It may be easy for me to say, being a white guy and all, but if I were a person of color, I think I would rather face open hostility than thinly veiled condescension from a bigoted person—because with the former at least you know where you stand, and the latter is in the long run both far more debilitating and dangerous.

That's just my 2¢. YMMV.
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Purplehood wrote:My new girlfriend "made" me watch that show for the first time recently. It is so contrived and silly that I just loved it.
Oh it's hilarious alright. And yes, it is contrived and silly, but it also makes me feel good about being a bit of a redneck with core conservative values.

I agree TAM. Us rednecks have to stick together in our values and beliefs.
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Sorry I was not looking at the race issue, I was just looking at the persons attitude.

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There is one subtle difference between Jase and Oprah though, and that is that Jase can shave off his beard and get a haircut anytime he wants to, and he'll be like his brother Al, whom nobody ever bothers because he looks "normal." But Oprah can't take off her blackness, and her politics, wealth, fame, social stature all have nothing to do with how she will be treated by people who don't know who she is. Some, because they are not racists, will treat her fairly and without any preconceived notions of her financial state; and others, because they are subconscious bigots, will do like the woman who inadvertently insulted her by trying to steer her to a less expensive item. Jase can walk in that hotel the next day, all cleaned up, and have a good laugh with the doorman who tossed him, and say "can you believe that I'm the same guy you threw out of here yesterday because of my beard, and today you're opening doors for me?" Oprah walks into that store the next day, and she's still the same black woman of whom some people are going to assume based on her color that she can't afford to buy whatever she wants to buy......and she'll be treated accordingly. There is no avenue of escape for her from that.

That's just my 2¢. YMMV.
OTOH, I've known a lot of white people who have been treated the same way in establishments that sell expensive merchandise. Good friends of ours went into look at a Steinway piano and the salesman ignored them because, based on the way that they were dressed, he didn't think that they could afford it. They could have easily paid cash. Try going into a fancy car showroom dressed down and I suspect that you will receive the same cold shoulder treatment.

I believe that some (many?) high end sales people, from houses to cars to jewelery financially profile potential customers. Oprah admitted that she didn't have any of the normal expensive trappings that would have given the clerk clues that she was into really expensive apparel. I suspect that had more to do with the rejection than the color of Oprah's skin. I can see the point of view of the salesperson. Why waste your time showing something to a casual person off the street who is just there to drool over the item? Just like politics, there is an Elitist snobbery that exists that crosses political parties and countries. The sales people simply work within that scheme.
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bcschae wrote:Just to show the difference in the class of some people:

Oprah makes a huge ordeal about a woman not showing her a purse because the sales persons thought she couldn't afford it.

Jase laughs off the hotel employee and completely understands how the mistake could be made.
Recent reports from Switzerland indicate the sales person disputes entirely Oprah's claim not only what happened, but that she was not by herself, as she stated, but was with her bodyguard.

The sales person stated that she showed the purse to Oprah and that she treated Oprah with the utmost respect, as she does every customer who comes inside their store.

When you think a little about it. Switzerland is a very expensive place to live or visit. I have never been able to afford to visit there. The only recent American immigrant to Switzerland I am aware of is Tina Turner. So probably anyone who goes into an expensive store in Switzerland is rich and most likely the sales people know that. Tina probably wouldn't immigrate to Switzerland if was a racist place. They also never had slaves from Africa in Switzerland.

BTW Oprah stars in a movie coming out this weekend.
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Purplehood wrote:My new girlfriend "made" me watch that show for the first time recently. It is so contrived and silly that I just loved it.
Oh it's hilarious alright. And yes, it is contrived and silly, but it also makes me feel good about being a bit of a redneck with core conservative values.
I think that's precisely why the show is successful..... Even buttoned-up, liberal, Wall Streeters have a bit of redneck inside.

True story: A few years ago when OCC (Orange County Choppers) was at its peak, I was at a party in NYC. Lots of well-dressed folks who looked at me rather cross while my kids told stories of shooting dad's (and Uncle's) guns. You know the stereotype. Later in the evening OCC came up in the conversation. (In case you didn't know, their location is in Orange County, New York. About 70 miles North of Wall Street.) The guys were all talking about the machines, the ladies were all talking about the men.

Best quote of the evening...
Woman 1: "I could definitely go for a "Blue Collar Man""
Woman 2: "I know what you mean"
Woman 3: "Count me in"
Me (thinking to myself): "Maybe that wasn't a "cross" look after all".... ;-) ;-)

It's too bad really, that we don't have any leaders today that can inspire the inner redneck. There's definitely a pent-up demand.
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chasfm11 wrote:OTOH, I've known a lot of white people who have been treated the same way in establishments that sell expensive merchandise.
I have several times, in Europe it's commonplace for me... Sometimes I'll go out of my way to look a bit disheveled (car dealerships) and use it to my advantage.
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