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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

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philip964 wrote:original article in Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... 8H20120425" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Zimmerman has "black" roots not that race matters.
I just finished reading that article after finding it linked on Drudge. I have to say, this is the FIRST dispassionate description of George Zimmerman I've seen in ANY of the major media outlets. Reuters, which is often liberally biased, deserves kudos for this article. They don't demonize Zimmerman, and they don't make him out to be a saint either. What I took away from it is that George Zimmerman is a guy who cares deeply about his community and his neighbors, and he walked the walk in that regard, not just talking the talk. In reporting on the episode with an old fiancé in which he had a restraining order filed against him for some kind of abuse, most news sources conveniently leave out that he also filed for a restraining order against her for the exact same reasons, and the court found reason to grant that order. Instead of Zimmerman coming off like a wife abuser, he comes off as a guy who was in a poisonous relationship and wanted out of it as much as she did. That's a very different picture than that described for the lamestream media.

I actually came away from reading it being a little more impressed with the guy—not as a hero, but just as a fundamentally decent guy—and I am impressed with the amount of punishment he has manfully absorbed in the media and in the halls of power without complaining about a single bit of it. He seems to understand and accept that this is how it is, rightly or wrongly. A lot of guys in his shoes would be shooting their mouth off in self-defense, trying to make themselves look good. Zimmerman hasn't done that, which takes a fair amount of A) courage, and B) faith in the system—a system which is being sorely tried at this time.
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I believe the media is realizing they might have messed up big time on this one and are starting to see wolves in the shadows. They are starting to mellow out their reporting and hope Zimmerman and his prospective council forget what they wrote and broadcasted early on.

Obummer might even end up inviting George to the White House for a beer if he is acquitted. :cheers2:

"George, I didn’t say you shot him because he is black. I just said if I had a son he would look like Trayvon. Some people may have interpreted it wrong but that is not my fault."
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
philip964 wrote:original article in Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... 8H20120425" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Zimmerman has "black" roots not that race matters.
I just finished reading that article after finding it linked on Drudge. I have to say, this is the FIRST dispassionate description of George Zimmerman I've seen in ANY of the major media outlets. Reuters, which is often liberally biased, deserves kudos for this article. <SNIP>
I agree completely, GZ has shown incredible courage and self restraint.

I also thought it was a good, factual piece of reporting. I dunno 'bout Reuters in print but when the wife or I are awake in the wee hours and don't want to wake up the house, we will likely turn on the Wii news channel which is almost exclusively Reuters. I find that the vast majority is generally just factual and I think straight from the wire. What spin and perversion happens between there and the rags, I have no idea.
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TAM, I think Zimmerman might have a misplaced faith in the justice system. He seems a bit naive to me. For example, he seemed to have a strong desire to apologize to Trayvon's parents, unaware of how that might be perceived by those opposed to him. I hope, if the facts bear it out, that he is either found not guilty or the charges are dropped during the immunity hearing, but I fear that the die has been cast and he is headed for prison, the facts notwithstanding. No matter what happens his life will never be the same, and he will always have a target on his back. That's a pretty steep price to pay for (if he's innocent) defending your life.
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57Coastie wrote:I see that Zimmerman is apparently having trouble raising the $15,000 needed to get a $150,000 bond.

It may be time for some to put their money...where? :mrgreen:

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Y'all seem to have missed your chance. The news is that Z got $200,000 in contributions via his website, after pleading through his lawyer at his bail hearing that he couldn't raise $15,000 for a $150,000 bond. Of course he allegedly "forgot" to tell his lawyer about this. He may well have another bail hearing.

I have begun to believe that if Z is convicted of something it will be his own stupid fault for opening his mouth too much except for when he should open it, but keeps it shut. :smash:

Any lawyer's bad dream: everyone knows what is going on with his client except himself. Another lawyer's bad dream: having to explain to a judge what his client has done when he has no idea what his client has done or is doing.

There may be some good lessons here for someone thinking about getting in serious trouble and needing a lawyer. :nono:

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57Coastie wrote:
57Coastie wrote:I see that Zimmerman is apparently having trouble raising the $15,000 needed to get a $150,000 bond.

It may be time for some to put their money...where? :mrgreen:

Jim
Y'all seem to have missed your chance. The news is that Z got $200,000 in contributions via his website, after pleading through his lawyer at his bail hearing that he couldn't raise $15,000 for a $150,000 bond. Of course he allegedly "forgot" to tell his lawyer about this. He may well have another bail hearing.
It appears that money started coming in after the arraignment. I know that's when I moved on it.

Added in Edit: They have pulled the site.
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The lawyer DID mention the site during the bail hearing, but said he didn't know anything about it, and wasn't in charge of it (or words to that effect).
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57Coastie wrote:I see that Zimmerman is apparently having trouble raising the $15,000 needed to get a $150,000 bond.

It may be time for some to put their money...where? :mrgreen:
It looks like some did. More than $200,000 worth. God Bless America. :patriot:

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Apparently when newspaper reporters are beaten up. It actually kind of makes the news. Sort of.

http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2012/0 ... brambleton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mentions the Trayvon Miller case towards the end.

Some of the comments are great. There is one about carrying a spare magazine. (he obviously cares about puppies)

The newpaper writes about it two weeks after it happens and then only as an editorial. Then only very timidly. But it is a start when they write about the 2000 lb elephant in the room, the Trayvon neighbor commented about.

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Used to drive past that intersection everyday in college. Norfolk is a bit of a rat hole. Big beautiful houses next to horrible govt housing projects. Causes quite a few problems. I don't go to norfolk with out an extra magazine. Thinking about getting a dash cam to complement that so I don't end up like Zimmerman.

You are driving though an intersection and a mob attacks your car and beats in your windshield, you shoot to defend your life and now the thugs beating in your door are beautiful little cherubs who were on their way home to do thier algebra homework and some biology :roll: . Apparently wounds are not enough anymore to spare you from prosecution do perhaps an impartial dash cam might be of assistance.
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Michael Berry picked up this story about the reporters being beaten up.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/100-blacks-b ... es-attack/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Mediaite post with new details:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/newly-un ... is-ex-hoe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Miami Herald article quoted in post above:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/01/2 ... vo-in.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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What so damming about GZ? I read only a fantasy rambling no more. Was he in real gang, nope. It is just fiction. Court will dig up that in a beat if it was true.
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Plus it's 5 years old. And "mexican" is not a race, it's a nationality.
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