mbw wrote:For an answer to your furniture purchase, try Gallery Furniture.
Mack, the owner, carries custom 1911's and in the past has paid for all of his sales people to get their CHL's. I don't know if that is still his policy, but I do know that it was several years ago.
"Mattress Mac" is a rather amusing Houston celebrity. Whether you like his TV sales pitches or not, his actions are indicative that he's pro-military, pro-gun, pro-rodeo, pro-American
HotLeadSolutions wrote:I am looking for a living room suite. Need a sofa and a love seat. Leather perferrably. While in the furiniture store today, the salesman had my business until he made a comment about gun ownership. (Stacy's Furniture on 75) His comment, "Why would any idiot feel the need to carry a gun all the time" Cost the store a rather large purchase.
That got me to thinking....Why not JUST do business with other CHL's or 2A supporters?
So here goes....If any one knows of a CHLer or 2A supporter with a furniture store...Please post it on this thread.
In the future I will also need an electrician, and an HVAC technician. I found someone for windows this weekend during the shoot and eat.
Lets keep the CHL 2A dollar in the gun friendly community as long as possible.
That's odd.... Ron Stacey is a friend of mine and a brother AMBUCS member. He's a pretty conservative guy, as is his brother, and I don't think your salesman's attitude is reflective of the corporate culture. I've been in the Grapevine store a number of times, and the bulk of the furniture in my home comes from there. I would definitely shop there again. So one of their salesmen is a fool.....your going to blame the whole company for his personal politics?
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
The Annoyed Man wrote:So one of their salesmen is a fool.....your going to blame the whole company for his personal politics?
I won't do business with 5 Star Ford in Ft Worth ever again because of one salesman. So, yes, I do blame the company. They hired him, so they have to deal with the consequences.
The Annoyed Man wrote:So one of their salesmen is a fool.....your going to blame the whole company for his personal politics?
I won't do business with 5 Star Ford in Ft Worth ever again because of one salesman. So, yes, I do blame the company. They hired him, so they have to deal with the consequences.
As an employee of a company, your job is to represent the company and be a good ambassador for them. That means taking care of customers. You may not agree with everything they do, but as long as they are not doing anything that is illegal or immoral, you don't talk your own company down to customers.
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
The Annoyed Man wrote:So one of their salesmen is a fool.....your going to blame the whole company for his personal politics?
I won't do business with 5 Star Ford in Ft Worth ever again because of one salesman. So, yes, I do blame the company. They hired him, so they have to deal with the consequences.
As an employee of a company, your job is to represent the company and be a good ambassador for them. That means taking care of customers. You may not agree with everything they do, but as long as they are not doing anything that is illegal or immoral, you don't talk your own company down to customers.
I understand that, bit the op didn't say that the sales rep talked down his company. he talked down gun ownership. I don't take that to mean that Stacey Furniture is anti gun, particularly since I know the founders. I take that to mean that the salesperson is an idiot.
YMMV
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
The Annoyed Man wrote:So one of their salesmen is a fool.....your going to blame the whole company for his personal politics?
I won't do business with 5 Star Ford in Ft Worth ever again because of one salesman. So, yes, I do blame the company. They hired him, so they have to deal with the consequences.
As an employee of a company, your job is to represent the company and be a good ambassador for them. That means taking care of customers. You may not agree with everything they do, but as long as they are not doing anything that is illegal or immoral, you don't talk your own company down to customers.
I understand that, bit the op didn't say that the sales rep talked down his company. he talked down gun ownership. I don't take that to mean that Stacey Furniture is anti gun, particularly since I know the founders. I take that to mean that the salesperson is an idiot.
YMMV
Maybe i wasn't clear on my thoughts. If I come in to a store and have no idea what Political party they support, as a conservative I don't want the salesman pushing his personal liberal Democratic views on me. My take will be that this is the stance of the company since he is on company time and will have a negative impression of him and of the company. The salesman should be conducting business and if he has differing views than the company he represents, then just don't say anything on the matter.
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
I understand what you all are saying, and in some ways, I agree with it. For instance, I won't disarm to enter a 30.06 posted business. If they don't want me to enter armed, then they don't want me to enter. I too am in favor of giving my business to pro-gun companies whenever possible.
The problem with idiot employees is that they often act without the employer's awareness. To each his own, but my reaction would have been to A) inform the salesperson that he just lost the sale because he called me an idiot ("Why would any idiot feel the need to carry a gun all the time..."), and then B) ask to speak to his manager to let the manager know that the salesperson just insulted me. A sales employee generally does not, or at least should not be sharing his or her own political opinions with walk-in customers exactly because they risk alienating about half of the people who walk in the door. And I am sure that if the management knew about it (do they know?), they would be, at the minimum, counseling the employee to keep their political (and religious) opinions to themselves. If I employed salespeople, it would be part of the terms of their employment that they are not to discuss politics or religion with MY customers. This is necessary, because it is not possible, legally anyway, to discriminate in political ideology or religion when employing people. You can't say, "I'd give you the job, but you don't support concealed carry," or "I'd give you the job, but you're Jewish," because you can't ask those kinds of questions when hiring, unless perhaps your business actually markets specifically to the CCW market niche. So warning employees to steer away from these kinds of conversations in the first place is the only real protection employers have from suffering the consequences of what you all are proposing—that they should deliberately hire gun-friendly employees only or lose your business. So how can they reasonably, and legally, be expected to know a prospective employee's politics?
So, all of this then begs the question, how did the conversation turn to guns in the first place? If I, as a customer, engage in sociopolitical conversation with a salesperson, I risk hearing something I'm not going to like. So if I initiated the conversation, and I hear something I don't like, then should I be getting upset about it? After all, if I am the OP, and if it hadn't come up in conversation which I started, then I would have likely gone ahead and bought the furniture from Stacey's (which the OP says he was willing to do up to the point of the salesperson's comment).
That's the part that I'm having trouble with. Stacey's had no way of knowing what this salesperson's personal politics are, because they are not allowed to ask during the interview and hiring process. But you would hold them responsible for it anyway. One could argue that they can ask what organizations an employee belongs to, and select for those that belong to the NRA; but then half the members of this board not only don't belong to the NRA, they are angry with the NRA, so that turns out not to be a valid selector.
My point is that, unless a company has an overtly stated anti-gun political stance, trying to hold that employer responsible for the RKBA political correctness of its employees does not seem like a very effective—or fair—means of protesting. To the OP, is Stacey Furniture even aware that they lost a sale on an expensive item because of what their employee said? Did you plan to let them know so that they can take remedial action for the future? Because I know that if Rick Stacey knew about it, fur would fly. Does he know? How can he correct the situation if he doesn't know?
That's all I'm saying.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
As an employee of a company, your job is to represent the company and be a good ambassador for them. That means taking care of customers. You may not agree with everything they do, but as long as they are not doing anything that is illegal or immoral, you don't talk your own company down to customers.