Good evening gents. Well the last semester of my college career begins tomorrow and without a job lined up I'm a little nervous as to what my future holds. I've always been intrigued by a career in law enforcement and was curious as to the process of becoming a peace officer. Here are some questions that I currently have for you folks:
What is the basic process of becoming an LEO short of a department's hiring process?
Is the completion of a college/junior college academy necessary?
What parts of the process can be accomplished on-line?
Is it possible to begin any of this while I am still in school?
My thinking is that if there is some way to do everything short of applying to a specific department then if after a month or so after graduation I still haven't found a job then I would have this to fall back on. Thanks guys.
TCLEOSE process
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Re: TCLEOSE process
you got two options, apply with a department and they will send you through an academy and if you graduate then you will be tcleose certified and can be a peace officer and second is to attend a college academy and pass the academy. The only difference is a department will pay you while you are at the academy and pay for the academy or you'll have to do it on your own. I did night academy and graduated in october. Be aware there are alot of certified people that can't get a job. Theres a lot of competition. Good Luck.
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you cant take a class here or there. Its all or nothing, at least all the college academies I researched.
March 09 --paid online
8-08-09 --Completed CHL class
8-11-09 --App dropped at DPS in person.
8-25-09 --Processing APP
10-04-09 --App completed - License Issued.
10-08-09 --Plastic in hand
8-08-09 --Completed CHL class
8-11-09 --App dropped at DPS in person.
8-25-09 --Processing APP
10-04-09 --App completed - License Issued.
10-08-09 --Plastic in hand
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Re: TCLEOSE process
Thanks y2bad4u! How long is the academy? Two semesters?
Re: TCLEOSE process
Please don't take this the wrong way, but LEO is not a very good "fall back job". While there are lots of places hiring, it is generally a very demanding process, and you will then be in training for at least 12 months. you will then likely be assigned the least desirable shifts.
If you're really interested though, here is a good resource for agencies that are hiring: http://tml.associationcareernetwork.com ... ?cabbr=TML
As far as putting yourself through an academy, you can do that, and it may help you get on with a smaller department. A full time academy will take about 5 months to complete. Part time will take about a year. Most larger departments will put you through their academy, or some sort of regional academy. They will also pay you while you're there.
If you find an agency that's hiring it can still take as long as 3-6 months to complete the process, so don't wait too long.
If you're really interested though, here is a good resource for agencies that are hiring: http://tml.associationcareernetwork.com ... ?cabbr=TML
As far as putting yourself through an academy, you can do that, and it may help you get on with a smaller department. A full time academy will take about 5 months to complete. Part time will take about a year. Most larger departments will put you through their academy, or some sort of regional academy. They will also pay you while you're there.
If you find an agency that's hiring it can still take as long as 3-6 months to complete the process, so don't wait too long.
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Re: TCLEOSE process
OP: Too bad you are in Galveston.
The Dallas Police Department is constantly firing their officers
for all kinds of evil doing, both on and off duty. :-)
SIA
The Dallas Police Department is constantly firing their officers
for all kinds of evil doing, both on and off duty. :-)
SIA
N. Texas LTC's hold 3 breakfasts each month. All are 800 AM. OC is fine.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
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Re: TCLEOSE process
You can apply with us, we test in April. PM me for details.
I *highly* recommend getting hired with an agency that will hire, and pay to train you. Generally these are more competitive slots as it is a more desirable situation. In my experience this has led to some very professional, capable, and hard working coworkers. Some of those that went through my academy self-sponsored struggled on exams, were out of shape, and had trouble finding jobs. These are not absolute sweeping statements or generalizations just relaying my personal experience.
The departments that pay to train will have a larger pool of applicants and can be pickier because of that. They usually have better pay. My process was not unique (I applied with 4 agencies, was blessed to be finally offered my first choice).
Pick an agency, or agencies.
Sign up for their written exam. Many will have a physical fitness test that same day. Exceed at both. Often times these scores will rank the hundreds of applicants that are applying for a handful of slots.
Complete a Personal History Statement. Not sure who decided this was a statement, it is more like a fill in the blank autobiography. My longest was 30 pages, going back 10 years. Neighbors, teachers, grades, roommates, residences, life changes, credit, finances, church involvement, arrests, tickets, dropped charges, special situations. It even covers involvement in illegal activity for which you were not caught. Don't lie - because....
Take and pass a polygraph. If you get an answer wrong, there is a small electric jolt. Not really, but I wouldn't be surprised if each poly took 6 months of your life from stress alone.
Background investigation - a background investigator will comb through your PHS (see above) and actually verify every piece of information you listed.
As if this wasn't bad enough, then you get to go before an oral board interview. Depending on the agency, the oral board will be a formal QA session, a relaxed get to know, or a rake you over the coals, insult you, get you flustered and see what you can take ordeal. I have sat through at least one of each of the above types. The boards will often consist of a seasoned officer, an FTO, a SGT, a LT, and sometimes a non-sworn person. I also had a chaplain sit in on mine which I thought was neat. I prefer the formal QA. The questions are designed to get you to think, and stick to your guns when challenged. They will offer ethical dilemmas with no clear cut answers.
Even if you pass all of these steps, that just qualifies you as "hireable." You might be 17th on a list of 400, and not get a job because the agency only had 5 vacancies.
Cast a wide net. I would say apply for a job or two near you are not even super interested in just to get some experience. Look on realpolice.net for some good info for prospective recruits. It helped me a great deal when I was prepping for oral boards and the poly.
GL and feel free to PM me with any questions. I agree with the above comments that this is not a fall back career. One of my hiring class buddies took this job because there were no others. He left to pursue coaching - it wasn't for him. Few are on the fence with working in LE. Do some rides and read so you know what you are getting into.
I *highly* recommend getting hired with an agency that will hire, and pay to train you. Generally these are more competitive slots as it is a more desirable situation. In my experience this has led to some very professional, capable, and hard working coworkers. Some of those that went through my academy self-sponsored struggled on exams, were out of shape, and had trouble finding jobs. These are not absolute sweeping statements or generalizations just relaying my personal experience.
The departments that pay to train will have a larger pool of applicants and can be pickier because of that. They usually have better pay. My process was not unique (I applied with 4 agencies, was blessed to be finally offered my first choice).
Pick an agency, or agencies.
Sign up for their written exam. Many will have a physical fitness test that same day. Exceed at both. Often times these scores will rank the hundreds of applicants that are applying for a handful of slots.
Complete a Personal History Statement. Not sure who decided this was a statement, it is more like a fill in the blank autobiography. My longest was 30 pages, going back 10 years. Neighbors, teachers, grades, roommates, residences, life changes, credit, finances, church involvement, arrests, tickets, dropped charges, special situations. It even covers involvement in illegal activity for which you were not caught. Don't lie - because....
Take and pass a polygraph. If you get an answer wrong, there is a small electric jolt. Not really, but I wouldn't be surprised if each poly took 6 months of your life from stress alone.
Background investigation - a background investigator will comb through your PHS (see above) and actually verify every piece of information you listed.
As if this wasn't bad enough, then you get to go before an oral board interview. Depending on the agency, the oral board will be a formal QA session, a relaxed get to know, or a rake you over the coals, insult you, get you flustered and see what you can take ordeal. I have sat through at least one of each of the above types. The boards will often consist of a seasoned officer, an FTO, a SGT, a LT, and sometimes a non-sworn person. I also had a chaplain sit in on mine which I thought was neat. I prefer the formal QA. The questions are designed to get you to think, and stick to your guns when challenged. They will offer ethical dilemmas with no clear cut answers.
Even if you pass all of these steps, that just qualifies you as "hireable." You might be 17th on a list of 400, and not get a job because the agency only had 5 vacancies.
Cast a wide net. I would say apply for a job or two near you are not even super interested in just to get some experience. Look on realpolice.net for some good info for prospective recruits. It helped me a great deal when I was prepping for oral boards and the poly.
GL and feel free to PM me with any questions. I agree with the above comments that this is not a fall back career. One of my hiring class buddies took this job because there were no others. He left to pursue coaching - it wasn't for him. Few are on the fence with working in LE. Do some rides and read so you know what you are getting into.
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
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Re: TCLEOSE process
Thanks guys, I am humbled by the advice you take the time out of your day to lend me! I will look into it more to see if I can make it happen.