Robbed Inside Walmart - Houston

[KD5NRH]

They don't realize that many (but not all) unarmed guard services pull from the same labor pool as temporary staffing agencies for warehouses and landscaping companies.

Actually, I went through a lot more screening and training for some low-end temp work than I did for the security jobs. One day of watching videos and whatever background check the state did was pretty much the extent of the requirements.

Level I and II are technically required, but they allow so much time that most guard companies manage to forget about them, and I've yet to hear of anyone being terminated for failing to complete them.

[blackdog8200]

Along the what if lines:

I would personally have my weapon drawn if I decided to confront a knife wielding actor. By confront in this situation, I mean yelling at him from a distance.

I recall from some reading, I think it was: “In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection" or "Stress fire" by Massad Ayoob, back in the 80's that a Knife represents a SERIOUS THREAT that Hollywood has understated in our minds.

Someone here can surely quote the facts and figures but a knife wielding bad guy can cover some 25 feet or so in, 3-4 steps in a second or two is all. Now, how long does it take YOU to draw and get off one aimed round from concealment?

Personally, I feel the adrenaline dump from just seeing the violent actions will degrade my coordination, create tunnel vision and cause what could be a fatal delay in my draw speed. Therefore I would not yield my advantage of "surprise"….I would at least have my weapon drawn and possibly down at my side or a low ready before I said anything. Perhaps the sight of my weapon along with a loud command might get him to withdraw. At that point, the woman is out of danger; I have not had to use deadly force and all that that will imply. Lawyers, investigations, money, perhaps a lawsuit, or God forbid one of my rounds finds an innocent bystander on another aisle. However if he does come my way, I’ll be prepared to act.

Be Safe!

[KD5NRH]

I recall from some reading, I think it was: “In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection" or "Stress fire" by Massad Ayoob, back in the 80's that a Knife represents a SERIOUS THREAT that Hollywood has understated in our minds.

It causes larger wounds than a handgun, never jams, never runs out of ammunition, is difficult to block effectively and near impossible to grab without getting hurt. Add to that that a knife can do damage in multiple directions where a handgun only hurts in a straight line, and it's not something you want to take on.

[USA1]

I recall from some reading, I think it was: “In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection" or "Stress fire" by Massad Ayoob, back in the 80's that a Knife represents a SERIOUS THREAT that Hollywood has understated in our minds.

It causes larger wounds than a handgun, never jams, never runs out of ammunition, is difficult to block effectively and near impossible to grab without getting hurt. Add to that that a knife can do damage in multiple directions where a handgun only hurts in a straight line, and it's not something you want to take on.

I can't remember where I heard this but a poll was taken.
When asked, most people say they are more afraid when confronted by a knife than with a handgun.

[davidtx]

I recall from some reading, I think it was: “In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection" or "Stress fire" by Massad Ayoob, back in the 80's that a Knife represents a SERIOUS THREAT that Hollywood has understated in our minds.

It causes larger wounds than a handgun, never jams, never runs out of ammunition, is difficult to block effectively and near impossible to grab without getting hurt. Add to that that a knife can do damage in multiple directions where a handgun only hurts in a straight line, and it's not something you want to take on.

I can't remember where I heard this but a poll was taken.
When asked, most people say they are more afraid when confronted by a knife than with a handgun.

FWIW: I just had this conversation with one of my Krav Maga instructors a couple of weeks ago. She said she is a LOT more afraid of somebody with a knife than she is of someone with a gun. The gun wielder may or may not have any training (and if they are holding it gangsta style...). If someone pulls a knife on you, its much more likely that they know what they are doing. She carries multiple blades...

[OldCannon]

I recognized that it was a theft in progress.
When the guy was running past me I stuck my foot out and tripped the guy.
He did a face plant onto the sidewalk, the merchandise went flying, and the
store employee was able to sit on the guy until the Police arrived...That sure felt good.

Did you get a Joe Namath autograph for it? http://www.tomheroes.com/Comic%20Ads/cl ... _dingo.htm

[USA1]

I recognized that it was a theft in progress.
When the guy was running past me I stuck my foot out and tripped the guy.
He did a face plant onto the sidewalk, the merchandise went flying, and the
store employee was able to sit on the guy until the Police arrived...That sure felt good.

Did you get a Joe Namath autograph for it? http://www.tomheroes.com/Comic%20Ads/cl ... _dingo.htm

I didn't even get a pair of Dingo's out of it.
But the satisfaction of the bad guy taking the one way ride was good enough for me.

[dicion]

Welcome to security theater.

This says it all about the world we live in today.

Security Guards, TSA, even actual police officers to an extent.

If you asked most people what a LEO's job was, they would probably say something like 'To protect me and my family", which is incorrect.
The job of the police is to protect and serve 'The Public' at large, not any one individual or family.
They do this by mostly catching criminals AFTER they have committed one or more crimes, and occasionally during the execution of one.

Neighborhood patrols by officers are mostly another aspect of 'Security Theater', or making the public feel protected. It may fool some criminals as well, but the 15 seconds of an officer driving by your house every day is actually pretty worthless for the other 23 hours and 45 seconds of the day.

In order to catch, and put away a Murderer/Rapist/etc, and therefore protect the public from them.... they have to kill/rape/etc someone first.

Not ragging on LEO's, they do their job to the best of their ability. Until they can read minds and know where, when, what, and to whom someone is going to do something to before they do it, they will never be able to perfectly protect any individual.

[old farmer]

The lady should have yelled ..." shoplifter, shoplifter...."

[Outbreaker]

Wow. I know which Walmart that is so I'm not too surprised.

Getting through the parking lot alive is tough enough but a lot of people
let their guard down inside the store because they have a false sense of security.

The BG's are getting bolder by the day. We have to stay on alert 100% of the time.

I would have liked to have seen this headline...
"Woman Shoots a Knife Wielding Robber Inside a Houston Walmart"

She wouldn't be a victim, She'd be a hero in my book.

Not it should have read

"Shopper Shoots robber inside walmart and due to ammo shortage could only fire 23 shots"