Thanks, went back and fixed my original post.anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:31 pmLinky no workyFrankie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm That was fast!
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Woman killed by FT Worth PD officer
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It is all well and good that the officer is facing charges and has been disciplined(fired). But the Ft. Worth Police department as a whole needs to be under investigation. It is apparently obvious that they call a swat style commando raid a ":wellness check". That is actually what is responsible for this womans death. I hope they are not allowed to brush the blame off on an officer performing under their direction. A wellness check has always been and should always be, a knock on the door and ask if you are OK thing!Frankie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm That was fast!
Fort Worth police officer jailed on murder charge after resigning in shooting that killed woman in home
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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:52 pmIt is all well and good that the officer is facing charges and has been disciplined(fired). But the Ft. Worth Police department as a whole needs to be under investigation. It is apparently obvious that they call a swat style commando raid a ":wellness check". That is actually what is responsible for this womans death. I hope they are not allowed to brush the blame off on an officer performing under their direction. A wellness check has always been and should always be, a knock on the door and ask if you are OK thing!Frankie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm That was fast!
Fort Worth police officer jailed on murder charge after resigning in shooting that killed woman in home
https://www.foxnews.com/us/fort-worth-p ... estigation
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I find myself watching OAN (One America News ch. 347) much more than FOX these days.Grayling813 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:52 pmFOX News is increasingly left wing and well on the way to becoming another fake news outlet.
The same coverage of important events but LOTS of other news as well. Plus I don't have to suffer through the likes of Juan Williams and the other representative Liberals. Fox has always prided itself on being 'fair and balanced' but WHY these days? We've long ago slipped into a culture war, pick a side. Sorry, but that's where we are folks.
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To me, it seemed more like a sting operation than anything else.03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:52 pmIt is all well and good that the officer is facing charges and has been disciplined(fired). But the Ft. Worth Police department as a whole needs to be under investigation. It is apparently obvious that they call a swat style commando raid a ":wellness check". That is actually what is responsible for this womans death. I hope they are not allowed to brush the blame off on an officer performing under their direction. A wellness check has always been and should always be, a knock on the door and ask if you are OK thing!Frankie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm That was fast!
Fort Worth police officer jailed on murder charge after resigning in shooting that killed woman in home
https://www.foxnews.com/us/fort-worth-p ... estigation
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All of this reminds me of the botched raid in Houston--what is the status of those cases? Grand jury indictments?...Trial settings?...
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This is not good for nobody!
The apparent uninformed shooter has apparently resigned from the Police Force. What does this say about the training, education, and training of new recruits, their backgrounds, and their leadership? C'mon, guys, this is TEXAS, let's get it right, please?
The apparent uninformed shooter has apparently resigned from the Police Force. What does this say about the training, education, and training of new recruits, their backgrounds, and their leadership? C'mon, guys, this is TEXAS, let's get it right, please?
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Full blown murder.
That seems over charging. But mayoral elections are soon.
How many shots did he fire, if one, he could have had his finger on the trigger and she startled him.
Full blown murder.
That seems over charging. But mayoral elections are soon.
How many shots did he fire, if one, he could have had his finger on the trigger and she startled him.
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He wasn’t too startled to be shouting commands as he fired. Are cops trained to perform a non-emergency welfare check with their finger on the trigger? Amber Guyger at least had a plausible story of mistaken fact, if not real fear for her life. The Mayor said the gun found in the house was “irrelevant”, so, apparently not in the victim’s hands at the time. Seems to me a clearer case of murder than that of Amber Guyger.philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:13 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... SIGNS.html
Full blown murder.
That seems over charging. But mayoral elections are soon.
How many shots did he fire, if one, he could have had his finger on the trigger and she startled him.
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And the left wants to disarm us and leave our safety up to these guys?
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Look over the past few years and the chiefs of police in FW. I believe that the outcome of the Jerry Waller case determined that there would be more police shootings of innocent citizens.Oldgringo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:01 pm This is not good for nobody!
The apparent uninformed shooter has apparently resigned from the Police Force. What does this say about the training, education, and training of new recruits, their backgrounds, and their leadership? C'mon, guys, this is TEXAS, let's get it right, please?
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In light of the publicly available information at this time, I think murder is the appropriate charge. I had just said that to my wife moments before the arrest came out in the news.Chaparral wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:45 pmHe wasn’t too startled to be shouting commands as he fired. Are cops trained to perform a non-emergency welfare check with their finger on the trigger? Amber Guyger at least had a plausible story of mistaken fact, if not real fear for her life. The Mayor said the gun found in the house was “irrelevant”, so, apparently not in the victim’s hands at the time. Seems to me a clearer case of murder than that of Amber Guyger.philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:13 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... SIGNS.html
Full blown murder.
That seems over charging. But mayoral elections are soon.
How many shots did he fire, if one, he could have had his finger on the trigger and she startled him.
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Over charging? The cop executed a woman whose only provocation was being seen through the window of her home.philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:13 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... SIGNS.html
Full blown murder.
That seems over charging. But mayoral elections are soon.
How many shots did he fire, if one, he could have had his finger on the trigger and she startled him.
She startled him by appearing in her window? He wasn’t startled, he was amped up and ready to kill without hesitation just like Guyger.
How many innocent citizens have to die at the hands of nervous/scared/poorly trained police officers before the chiefs and city officials fix the problems in their departments?
Perhaps a couple of chiefs need to do some time or be held personally financially responsible for the actions of their employees.
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The former officer has been charged with murder.
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I don't think it is overcharging. Apparently the suspect in this case refuses to cooperate with police, which is his right. But that also means there is no way to determine his motives for the killing. Based solely on the facts, and assuming the worst possible motive, murder seems like an appropriate charge.philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:13 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... SIGNS.html
Full blown murder.
That seems over charging. But mayoral elections are soon.
How many shots did he fire, if one, he could have had his finger on the trigger and she startled him.
Any lesser charge would require a belief that the shooting was accidental, etc., but that is really hard to show if the suspect is not saying anything.