Ferguson now comes to police chases

Topics that do not fit anywhere else. Absolutely NO discussions of religion, race, or immigration!

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton


Topic author
philip964
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 18219
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 pm

Ferguson now comes to police chases

#1

Post by philip964 »

http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interacti ... gher-rate/

Blacks killed in police chases at 3 x a higher rate than whites.

When the lights come on. Don't run from the police instead: Stop in a safe location, roll down your window, be polite and keep both hands on the steering wheel unless asked to retrieve something.

It all seems real simple to me.

Eric Lamberson
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 143
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:35 pm
Location: San Antonio, TX
Contact:

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#2

Post by Eric Lamberson »

It is that simple. Unless you are committing a crime, just committed a crime, or you have an arrest warrant for crimes committed previously. Innocent people do not run from the police.
Massad Ayoob Group Staff Instructor, NRA Life Member, Pistol instructor, and RSO;
Texas LTC Instructor, IDPA 6-gun Master, Suarez International Affiliate

JerryK
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 166
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:54 am

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#3

Post by JerryK »

But two-fifths of the chases of black drivers in 2013-14 involved offenses that appeared far less consequential. They began after officers tried to stop drivers for offenses so minor — including missing registration stickers, a driver without a seatbelt or a car with an engine that was too loud — that some departments would have prohibited a pursuit because the offense posed no danger to the public. Only about one-fifth of deadly pursuits of white drivers began over similar violations.

In Greensboro, N.C., an officer chased a 21-year-old black woman who drove 9 mph under the speed limit, something the city’s police chief later said could be a sign of drug trafficking. The woman fled, crashed and died; police found no drugs in her car.
This is a case of the media looking for a story and slanting it to their narrative.

Here are a few quotes from the story. Apparently they think we are so stupid as to not realize the PROBLEM is the fleeing not the race of the people fleeing. In the first quote if they are being pulled over for a minor traffic stop and they begin to flee it tells the LEO that there is something more than a simple violation which causes him to pursue the violator.

The 'inconvenient truth' is for the most part, whites pull over and the blacks DON'T!!! Simple, I could have written the story in 10 sentences or less

Dart106A
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 30
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:57 am

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#4

Post by Dart106A »

Pursuit is actually the correct term. Not "chase."

RKirkwood
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 212
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:47 pm

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#5

Post by RKirkwood »

Sadly stats can get spun in any direction. Pick any product or action and you can find one group using or doing more than others. It's bad that the media spins it into race all the time.
User avatar

suthdj
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2296
Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:49 pm
Location: North Ft Worth(Alliance area)

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#6

Post by suthdj »

What I read is whites must drive better then blacks.
21-Apr-09 filed online
05-Sep-09 Plastic Arrived
09-Sep-13 Plastic Arrived
21-june-18 Plasic Arrived
User avatar

anygunanywhere
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 7875
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:16 am
Location: Richmond, Texas

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#7

Post by anygunanywhere »

Inspection stickers and speed limits are racist.
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." Mike Vanderboegh

"The Smallest Minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." – Ayn Rand
User avatar

Middle Age Russ
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1402
Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:44 am
Location: Spring-Woodlands

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#8

Post by Middle Age Russ »

Actions have consequences. Flee from police and they chase you. Fail to immediately and peaceably cede control to police during an encounter and the consequences can end up being severe. These seem to me to be fairly simple concepts, but then again I hear that real "common sense" is being classified as a super-power these days.
Russ
Stay aware and engaged. Awareness buys time; time buys options. Survival may require moving quickly past the Observe, Orient and Decide steps to ACT.
NRA Life Member, CRSO, Basic Pistol, PPITH & PPOTH Instructor, Texas 4-H Certified Pistol & Rifle Coach, Texas LTC Instructor

Abraham
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 8400
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 am

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#9

Post by Abraham »

There are people who think they can resist, run, fight the police and should be allowed to without consequences.

And some of them are "millennials" (such behavior isn't limited to one group) - little lefty snowflakes who cry "foul" when they break the law, as if being a millennial, gives them a get out of jail free card...

Yes, I recognize there are lots of millennials in the military. I don't include them among the lefties taught to be left by marxist college/university instructors.

Soccerdad1995
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 4339
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:03 pm

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#10

Post by Soccerdad1995 »

There is fault by a small minority on both sides here, IMHO. All people should respect all police officers, and should immediately follow all of their commands. This is simple common sense, if nothing else. Nothing good can come from being combative or otherwise challenging an officer, in the moment. If nothing else, they have arrest powers, and firearms, at their disposal. There are some people in this country who do not do what they should in this regard.

And there are also some LEO's who do not do what they should, IMHO. When a car is pulled over on suspicion of speeding, for example, the first question should not be "where are you going?" I completely fail to see how the answer to that question is relevant to a determination of whether a driver was, in fact, committing the suspected violation. Giving the LEO the benefit of the doubt, maybe they are trying to help the driver to develop a defense of necessity (medical emergency), but I'm sure most all drivers would prefer to discuss defense strategies with their lawyer and not with an agent for the state who will be prosecuting them. Again, IMHO, the officer should simply keep the interaction focused on the suspected offense and not seek to expand the stop into a fishing expedition or a justification for an asset seizure, etc.

Most LEO's are not at fault here, and they do their jobs in a professional and respectful manner. And most people treat the police in a professional and respectful manner. Unfortunately, there are a few on both sides who are making things worse. And they are the ones who get all of the media attention.

TreyHouston
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1904
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:00 pm
Location: Tomball

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#11

Post by TreyHouston »

:clapping: :smash: :clapping: :smash:
WAIT A MIN!!!!! Did these "racist" cops get the memo that they were racists? 100% of the data I found was that WHITES are getting all the tickets!!! ! They are not racist against blacks, they are hating on WHITES!

https://www.texastribune.org/2015/09/04 ... c-drivers/
"Jump in there sport, get it done and we'll all sing your praises." -Chas

How many times a day could you say this? :cheers2:
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 5072
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#12

Post by ScottDLS »

TreyHouston wrote::clapping: :smash: :clapping: :smash:
WAIT A MIN!!!!! Did these "racist" cops get the memo that they were racists? 100% of the data I found was that WHITES are getting all the tickets!!! ! They are not racist against blacks, they are hating on WHITES!

https://www.texastribune.org/2015/09/04 ... c-drivers/
Yes and we need to get the sober drivers off the road. They cause over 75% of daytime car crashes.... :biggrinjester:
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"
User avatar

bblhd672
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 4811
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:43 am
Location: TX

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#13

Post by bblhd672 »

ScottDLS wrote:Yes and we need to get the sober drivers off the road. They cause over 75% of daytime car crashes.... :biggrinjester:
That's because even though they are sober, they are talking, texting or emailing on their phones instead of paying attention to how they are operating a 2000lb death machine. :headscratch
The left lies about everything. Truth is a liberal value, and truth is a conservative value, but it has never been a left-wing value. People on the left say whatever advances their immediate agenda. Power is their moral lodestar; therefore, truth is always subservient to it. - Dennis Prager

Abraham
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 8400
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 am

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#14

Post by Abraham »

But wait, these same folks will argue that it's ok to play the radio or roll down a window or whatever, so, sniff, sob, choke, what's wrong with texting, endlessly blabbing on their phone, or email while driving?

Huh, Huh, what's wrong with doing that stuff while driving?

Tip to those who do this stuff while driving: You could kill people including your narcissistic self...

texasag93
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 350
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:10 pm
Location: Denton

Re: Ferguson now comes to police chases

#15

Post by texasag93 »

bblhd672 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:Yes and we need to get the sober drivers off the road. They cause over 75% of daytime car crashes.... :biggrinjester:
That's because even though they are sober, they are talking, texting or emailing on their phones instead of paying attention to how they are operating a 2000lb death machine. :headscratch
There were no car crashes before smart phones.... :biggrinjester:
texasag93
Post Reply

Return to “Off-Topic”