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Should flag burning be legal

yes
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no
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only by Hippies over the age of 50
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bigtek wrote:
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nightmare69 wrote:It's a class A in Texas and as long as the law exists LEOs will enforce it.
I wonder if any of them will arrest a NFL players for disorderly conduct if they refuse to stand during the national anthem.
That's a good question. It's easy work rousting scrawny kids and geriatric flag burners. When Colin Kaepernick "intentionally" takes a knee during the national anthem, he knows full well it's "an offensive gesture or display in a public place, and the gesture or display tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" in America, especially in Texas.
There's no way this rises to the level of an "immediate breach of the peace". Kaepernick's idiocy is protected speech/expression, just like flag burning. You can't have police going around arresting people for taking an unpopular or even racist position... Maybe my public denial of man made climate change tends to incite an immediate breech of the peace in Austin, but I don't expect to get arrested for it. :nono:
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Re: FLAG burning being challenged by Trump

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ScottDLS wrote:There's no way this rises to the level of an "immediate breach of the peace".
That's your opinion, but seeing public reaction to this, it's much worse than some woman using profanity in Walmart.
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Only one law is a shall arrest in Texas, that a violation of a protective order that occurred in the officer's presence. Everything else is a "may" arrest including burning the flag and disorderly conduct. I don't waste my time on class C arrest unless they really tick me off. They will just get a PR bond the next morning anyway.
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Re: FLAG burning being challenged by Trump

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parabelum wrote:I am somewhat leaning towards it being illegal.

Burning the flag of this Nation for which so many died is not speech. Rather, it is an physical act to provoke and incite violence.

Freedom of expression is not same as freedom of speech, to me.
I support free speech fully, as disgusting as it may be.
Flag burning is an physical act, and again, it has nothing to do with speech, to me.

To burn the flag you need more then a filthy Prog mouth.

I know...most will disagree with me, and that's ok.
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Mxrdad wrote:Not sure how you got all of that out of my last post as I agree with what you just said. I was trying to say just because he tweets his opinion doesnt mean he will act on it.

ETA: In response to anygunanywhere from previous page.
Please explain how I am supposed to interpret "He really needs to watch his tweets" other than he really needs to watch his tweets.
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He doesnt, he can Tweet whatever he wants. In my world, unlike the politicians world, a mans word is good and we try our best to do what we say we we are going to do. When he Tweets one should possibly have their citizenship revoked, thats just not reasonable to me. Kinda hard to take that serious. Thats all I meant. Sorry if it offended you.
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Abraham wrote: MOS 11C10.
Abraham. I spent 5 years as a 11C (Mortars) before I was commissioned. What is a 11C10?
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Mxrdad wrote:He doesnt, he can Tweet whatever he wants. In my world, unlike the politicians world, a mans word is good and we try our best to do what we say we we are going to do. When he Tweets one should possibly have their citizenship revoked, thats just not reasonable to me. Kinda hard to take that serious. Thats all I meant. Sorry if it offended you.
Ok. I understand. I was not offended. No trigger alert. I didn't need my safe space. :biggrinjester:
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Re: FLAG burning being challenged by Trump

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G26ster,

81MM mortars, though we often had to fill in for 11B10, in other words, infantry grunts, which we were too, only different...
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Abraham wrote:G26ster,

81MM mortars, though we often had to fill in for 11B10, in other words, infantry grunts, which we were too, only different...
OK, I was in 81mm mortars too for those years ('62 - 67) in both straight leg and mechanized infantry, but there was no 10 on the end of the 11C at that time (that I recall). So, I was qualified in mortars and recoilless rifles also. Yeah, we were grunts too. So happy deflection, elevation and charge to you :cheers2:

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Re: FLAG burning being challenged by Trump

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There are some acts for which you can lose citizenship.

Look them up if you doubt it.

In my opinion flag burning should be included and I think Trump simply expressed his opinion not by using his pen and phone to make it so, unlike our "worst President to date".

President Elect Trump isn't acting like some tin pot dictator like so many on the left admire.

He doesn't behave like Castro or Obama.

He can certainly express his opinion and what he'd like without acting on it.

I realize some lefty's are incensed he doesn't do what they prefer and expresses negative opinions regarding topics they are so enamored with like flag burning to which I say again - "tough noogies".

He won the election and the left can cry their red eyes out and pout until they turn blue in the face!

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Re: FLAG burning being challenged by Trump

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G26ster wrote:
Abraham wrote: MOS 11C10.
Abraham. I spent 5 years as a 11C (Mortars) before I was commissioned. What is a 11C10?
Mortars, whoop whoop! that was me too! "hang it, Fire!" :anamatedbanana
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G26ster,

I went in 67 - Fort Ord and that was they classified my MOS when I entered AIT.

I'll look at my DD214 to see if it's on there...

Just checked and that's what on there 11C10 Indir. Fire.

Perhaps, given that I went into my time in service in 67 and yours ended in 67 they added the 10 on the end of the MOS.

Just guessing though...

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Re: FLAG burning being challenged by Trump

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Fire Mission!
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Abraham wrote:Fire Mission!
I'd say "send your mission, over" but then we'd be hijacking the thread for a while. :mrgreen:
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