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Multiple Intruders

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:17 pm
by Jago668
http://www.fox4news.com/news/235911009-story

Why I like to sleep with my AR next to my bed. First couple of shots would probably send them running, but still like having the extra rounds.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:18 pm
by magillapd
Also nice to have multipule armed home defenders. Ideal would be a good trained dog or two in addition to AR /12GA. A good home alarm system is also a good. (Not ADT)

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:40 pm
by carlson1
One of the reports said today that the victim tried to get to a firearm, but the intruders had kicked open their bedroom door before he could get to his firearm. This is not far from our church. About two weeks ago there was another home invasion just about two blocks south of this location.

The same kind of MO was used I believe in Plano yesterday. Business owners with a center block thrown through their window.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:56 pm
by AJSully421
Started speaking in tongues, she says.

OK...

Next time, try an AR or 12 gauge instead.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:55 am
by Vol Texan
magillapd wrote:Also nice to have multipule armed home defenders. Ideal would be a good trained dog or two in addition to AR /12GA. A good home alarm system is also a good. (Not ADT)
Why do you say 'Not ADT'?. Can you share information as to why that is a bad company to use?

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:59 pm
by karder
A good dog is the best alarm system you can get.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:18 pm
by Ameer
karder wrote:A good dog is the best alarm system you can get.
Second best.

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Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:50 pm
by Scott in Houston
Vol Texan wrote:
magillapd wrote:Also nice to have multipule armed home defenders. Ideal would be a good trained dog or two in addition to AR /12GA. A good home alarm system is also a good. (Not ADT)
Why do you say 'Not ADT'?. Can you share information as to why that is a bad company to use?

This...

ADT is fine.
The best function of an alarm is the audible noise it makes when an entrance or window is breached.
There's at least 10-15 seconds between that noise and the time any 'bad guy' gets to me and I'll be ready to defend myself by then.

ADT can be a bit pricey, but the physical alarm and sensors put in place are as good as any system. ADT is responsible for monitoring, and they're about as good as any in my experience.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:07 pm
by locke_n_load
Suppressed Ar9 SBR with 30 rd glock mag and 30 round backup mag should do the job.
I am still trying to find a way to mount the extra ETS mag to my rail, since I will most likely be in my undies during a home invasion and a mag down the undies isn't going to be "tactical" haha.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:24 pm
by carlson1
locke_n_load wrote:Suppressed Ar9 SBR with 30 rd glock mag and 30 round backup mag should do the job.
I am still trying to find a way to mount the extra ETS mag to my rail, since I will most likely be in my undies during a home invasion and a mag down the undies isn't going to be "tactical" haha.
I use a Redi-Mag for my 300BLK next to my bed. I am not for sure if they make one for a AR9 or not, but I love the Redi-Mag.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:32 pm
by Pawpaw
locke_n_load wrote:Suppressed Ar9 SBR with 30 rd glock mag and 30 round backup mag should do the job.
I am still trying to find a way to mount the extra ETS mag to my rail, since I will most likely be in my undies during a home invasion and a mag down the undies isn't going to be "tactical" haha.
With a small piece of wood and some duct tape, you should be able to duplicate the function of a Magpul MagLink coupler.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:35 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Scott in Houston wrote:
Vol Texan wrote:
magillapd wrote:Also nice to have multipule armed home defenders. Ideal would be a good trained dog or two in addition to AR /12GA. A good home alarm system is also a good. (Not ADT)
Why do you say 'Not ADT'?. Can you share information as to why that is a bad company to use?
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This...

ADT is fine.
The best function of an alarm is the audible noise it makes when an entrance or window is breached.
There's at least 10-15 seconds between that noise and the time any 'bad guy' gets to me and I'll be ready to defend myself by then.

ADT can be a bit pricey, but the physical alarm and sensors put in place are as good as any system. ADT is responsible for monitoring, and they're about as good as any in my experience.
I can't speak for ADT......we use a different service.....but we have several options when setting the alarm:
  1. "Away", with and without "entry delay": if "entry delay" is NOT selected, the alarm is triggered whenever the perimeter is penetrated, inncluding glass-break sensors, door and window sensors; and indoors motion detectors. When triggered, the system's klaxons/sirens emits all the usual loud and obnoxious noises, and the monitoring center generates a phone call to my cellphone, and the police are called. If "entry delay" is selected, then there is a 30 second delay between when the alarm is triggered, and when all the rest of the stuff happens.
  2. "Stay", without and without "entry delay": behaves the same way as above EXCEPT the internal motion detectors are switched off.
When we go to bed at night, we arm the system to the "Stay - no entry delay" setting. We also have a dog who barks whenever a flea farts two counties over. I keep a suppressed .300 Blackout SBR with three 30-round mags of subsonics and a mag of supersonics handy by the bed.......not to mention a couple of pistols and a shotgun. The dog barks at the drop of a hat. I don't really need to keep the system armed during the day, because there just isn't any way that a home invasion squad can get anywhere near my front door without my being alerted to their presence by the video cameras, etc.

And then there's the phone apps. I once declined a sales offer for new windows from a salesman standing right outside my front door..........while I was westbound on I-40, somewhere near Gallup, New Mexico. I could see him and talk to him, but he had no idea I was 800 miles from home.

But, there's only so much you can do. The determined and experienced home invaders are going to invade your home - whether or not you're prepared to meet them on the domestic battlefield, and no matter how much you invest in alarm and weapon systems. You can only do so much. It's just like with gun safes. You can bolt them to the floor and invest thousands in the highest quality safes, but if someone is truly determined to get your guns, they WILL get them. You can only hope to slow them down enough to make it not worth the effort to the casual or opportunistic thief. It's the same for the rest of your home/property. You can invest in alarm systems, dogs, and guns; but the determined professional home invader is going to get in, kill you (if you're home), and take your stuff. All you can do is slow down the opportunistic and the lazy. It's a harsh truth. The only thing you are left then is to have a plan for when it does happen (IF it does happen), and then train to a level to make that plan executable when the flag goes up. All the alarm systems, dogs, and guns in the world will just slow them down if you don't know what to do when/if it does happen.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:24 pm
by Scott in Houston
Good stuff TAM. We're on the same page.

The most important function of my alarm system is to give me time to react when home in order to protect my family.
There really isn't any 'stuff' in my house that I care *that* much about. My most valued things are worthless to most... pictures, etc.

Re: Multiple Intruders

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:05 pm
by Lambda Force
locke_n_load wrote:Suppressed Ar9 SBR with 30 rd glock mag and 30 round backup mag should do the job.
I am still trying to find a way to mount the extra ETS mag to my rail, since I will most likely be in my undies during a home invasion and a mag down the undies isn't going to be "tactical" haha.
Have you tried one of these floorplates?
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