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about Carol Strayhorn gov. candidate

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:28 am
by gigag04
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Re: about Carol Strayhorn gov. candidate

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:51 am
by anygunanywhere
gigag04 wrote:Carole is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and believes in negotiating from a position of strength not weakness. Her husband Ed Strayhorn is avid hunter and an NRA Member and TSRA Member.
Thanks, Gigag, for the info, but is her husband running, or is she? And what exactly does "negotiating from a position of strength" mean? I do not negotiate on 2A issues. If she was NRA and TSRA it would mean something. All we know for sure is her husband is pro 2A, and she is running against Rick and Kinky.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:53 am
by dolanp
Well it's a nice response but you can never really judge a politician until they start voting on bills. We know Perry supports us thus far.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:52 pm
by gigag04
yeah but he also outsourced the highways, and gave the foreigners the sole rights to devlop the siezed private land on the right of way.

I'm not totally against him at all. He's a former corps guy from A&M, and there is some fraternal aspects there. I was just curious if we were to lose what kind of state we would be in.

-nick

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:02 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Nic:
Thanks for contacting her campaign. I noted with interest the semi-canned response and failure to address the CHL question you posed.

I would like to point out that Carole Keeton Rylander Strayhorn was a Democrat when she was Mayor of Austin, the most liberal city in Texas. To my knowledge, she's never given any indication she is pro-gun, but in fairness, I know of no instances where she has taken an anti-gun position either. It has been my experience that people who are pro-gun will usually state it forthrightly, while anti-gun polititions tend to speak in terms of general support for the Second Amendment and sport shooting, while ignoring self-defense issues like CHL. We clearly know where Rick Perry stands. As Anygun said, I’m not impressed with her husband’s membership credentials. The fact that her son dodges your direct question and points to her current husband is worrisome.

Regards,
Chas.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:59 pm
by MoJo
When Ms. Strayhorn was Ms. Rylander and mayor of Austin, she was a tax and spend liberal who nearly put Austin into bankruptcy. I'm not sure a liberal can change simply by putting on a Conservative coat.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:52 pm
by EricS76
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Nic:
Thanks for contacting her campaign. I noted with interest the semi-canned response and failure to address the CHL question you posed.

I would like to point out that Carole Keeton Rylander Strayhorn was a Democrat when she was Mayor of Austin, the most liberal city in Texas. To my knowledge, she's never given any indication she is pro-gun, but in fairness, I know of no instances where she has taken an anti-gun position either. It has been my experience that people who are pro-gun will usually state it forthrightly, while anti-gun polititions tend to speak in terms of general support for the Second Amendment and sport shooting, while ignoring self-defense issues like CHL. We clearly know where Rick Perry stands. As Anygun said, I’m not impressed with her husband’s membership credentials. The fact that her son dodges your direct question and points to her current husband is worrisome.

Regards,
Chas.
I agree. Her son/campaign manager side-stepped the majority of the question, and the only part that was answered had nothing to do with her. The message looks anti-gun to me.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:56 pm
by Renegade
dolanp wrote:We know Perry supports us thus far.
Yep, she has criticized Perry on every issue except 2a issues. On that she is silent. Perhaps because she is not more pro-gun than he is?

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:59 pm
by Warhorse545
I have a bad feeling about her. She seems to be the type that sits back and sees what the peoples reactions are on a situation then picks a side. Like a lot of politicians. Seems she waits as long as possible on many issues to see how the populace is reacting and goes with the majority.


Stacey

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:43 pm
by dws1117
Warhorse545 wrote:I have a bad feeling about her. She seems to be the type that sits back and sees what the peoples reactions are on a situation then picks a side. Like a lot of politicians. Seems she waits as long as possible on many issues to see how the populace is reacting and goes with the majority.


Stacey
+1. Thanks for the info gig.

It never seems like a good sign when a politician side steps a question. Why is it so dang hard to answer a direct question directly?

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:51 pm
by one eyed fatman
dolanp wrote:Well it's a nice response but you can never really judge a politician until they start voting on bills. We know Perry supports us thus far.
We need Perry to do more than just support us. Just supporting gun issues isn't enough. He needs to support everyone in Texas. He's really screwing up on school funding and selling himself to the let's make every road in Texas a toll road crowd could be suicide for him. He's playing a Texas style "Sudden Death Match" but I don't think he knows the rules of the game. If Strayhorn wins it will be because the majority of Texans believe his light burned out.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:09 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
one eyed fatman wrote:We need Perry to do more than just support us. Just supporting gun issues isn't enough.
I agree that guns are not the sole issue for me, but a candidate's position on guns is a litmus test. If they are wrong on that issue, then I need look no further. I won’t sacrifice gun rights to get a school funding bill passed, or any other bills for that matter. We are blessed in Texas to have no shortage of pro-gun elected officials, so we don't have to accept a Strayhorn.

Perry can't force anything through the Legislature. As far as legislation goes, the Lt. Gov. in Texas has far more power than the Governor. Perry was a champion for the single most important school/tax related issue - a 3% cap on increases on appraisal increases.

Regards,
Chas.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:23 pm
by KBCraig
My school funding bill: everyone keep their money and educate their own children.

Bowing to the reality that government schools are inevitable in our current climate, I suggest that no taxes be collected or administered above the county level, and that the funds collected be spent solely on schools within that district or county.

Kevin

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:15 pm
by one eyed fatman
As far as legislation goes, the Lt. Gov. in Texas has far more power than the Governor.
But if we get rid of Perry do we not also get rid of the Lt. Gov? Kinky's looking pretty good right now.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:18 am
by KBCraig
one eyed fatman wrote:
As far as legislation goes, the Lt. Gov. in Texas has far more power than the Governor.
But if we get rid of Perry do we not also get rid of the Lt. Gov? Kinky's looking pretty good right now.
Governor and Lt. Governor are separate ballot items.

But as for Kinky... "why the hell not?" :D

Who is or isn't elected governor shouldn't matter a hill of beans in Bowie County, or Brazoria County, or any other county. Just like the selection of POTUS shouldn't affect anyone's life, no matter what part of the country they're in. But our collectively short national attention span means that the vast majority of our fellow citizens know absolutely nothing about their local and county politics, next to nothing about their state politics, and perhaps can name the President when it comes to national politics.

They only need that one name to ascribe credit or blame for whatever happens in their life. "The President runs the country!" is their mantra, so he ought to know about the potholes, or the crack houses, or the nutria-riddled levees.

I'm on the verge of only voting for candidates who will work to eliminate their own jobs.

Kevin