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Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:09 pm
by baldeagle

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:13 pm
by Taypo
What a colossal waste of resources. What's next? Door to door reminders that crack is illegal? How about a friendly policeman knocking on your door to remind you that speeding is against the law?

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:14 pm
by Countryside
Well, all the potential terrorist and mass killers have been given notice....no doubt they will humbly comply. :roll:

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:48 pm
by Abraham
This idea was no doubt thought up by some liberal politician.

I'm sure the LEO's forced into knocking on doors and delivering this dopey message were thoroughly embarrassed.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:52 pm
by JALLEN
Of course, if one has a CHL, or LTC, or CWP, or any other appropriate TLA, that law exempts you.

Since every man is presumed to know the law, informing these folks, accurately, is probably a public service.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:08 pm
by jimlongley
JALLEN wrote:Of course, if one has a CHL, or LTC, or CWP, or any other appropriate TLA, that law exempts you.

Since every man is presumed to know the law, informing these folks, accurately, is probably a public service.
And of course, also, no mention of that in the article.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:50 pm
by Middle Age Russ
Since every man is presumed to know the law, informing these folks, accurately, is probably a public service.
I understand the truth in what you have said, but therein lies the biggest issue most folks have with "government".

We are inundated with volume upon volume of laws from various places (not even counting administrative regulations taking the form of law). Many of these laws were ill-understood, if even read, by the very folks that voted to enact them. In this environment, it could well be a "public service" that citizens are informed of their criminal status -- as they are then bundled up and carted off to confinement for doing the same things that were once legal before creep set in. Currently, politics is a vocation or career since offices that matter seldom have term limits. Until this is changed, it seems that we will continue to be inundated by laws enacted simply to justify the existence of the current office-holder(s) rather than on the real merit of the bills for society.

Too bad that too many think too little of decisions (and the consequences thereof) they make in the voting booth. :banghead:

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:01 pm
by R DAVIS
Middle Age Russ wrote:
Since every man is presumed to know the law, informing these folks, accurately, is probably a public service.
I understand the truth in what you have said, but therein lies the biggest issue most folks have with "government".

We are inundated with volume upon volume of laws from various places (not even counting administrative regulations taking the form of law). Many of these laws were ill-understood, if even read, by the very folks that voted to enact them. In this environment, it could well be a "public service" that citizens are informed of their criminal status -- as they are then bundled up and carted off to confinement for doing the same things that were once legal before creep set in. Currently, politics is a vocation or career since offices that matter seldom have term limits. Until this is changed, it seems that we will continue to be inundated by laws enacted simply to justify the existence of the current office-holder(s) rather than on the real merit of the bills for society.

Too bad that too many think too little of decisions (and the consequences thereof) they make in the voting booth. :banghead:
Exactly!

"Do you think that we want those laws to be observed?
We want them broken. There’s no way to rule innocent men.
The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." -- Ayn Rand

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:23 pm
by JALLEN
Middle Age Russ wrote:
Since every man is presumed to know the law, informing these folks, accurately, is probably a public service.
I understand the truth in what you have said, but therein lies the biggest issue most folks have with "government".

We are inundated with volume upon volume of laws from various places (not even counting administrative regulations taking the form of law). Many of these laws were ill-understood, if even read, by the very folks that voted to enact them. In this environment, it could well be a "public service" that citizens are informed of their criminal status -- as they are then bundled up and carted off to confinement for doing the same things that were once legal before creep set in. Currently, politics is a vocation or career since offices that matter seldom have term limits. Until this is changed, it seems that we will continue to be inundated by laws enacted simply to justify the existence of the current office-holder(s) rather than on the real merit of the bills for society.

Too bad that too many think too little of decisions (and the consequences thereof) they make in the voting booth. :banghead:
That's because everybody runs to the government, their elected officials, whenever there is a problem. Elected officials have become increasingly sensitive to the cries and pleas of constituents. 100 years ago, these things would be unthinkable. Now, local governments pass idiotic, poorly thought out ordinances for everything from trash can sizes to global warming to nuclear free zones.

It used to be that you could do whatever you wanted unless there was a law. Now, the attitude is that you can't do that unless there is a regulation permitting it.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:50 pm
by maintenanceguy
JALLEN wrote:
...That's because everybody runs to the government, their elected officials, whenever there is a problem. Elected officials have become increasingly sensitive to the cries and pleas of constituents. 100 years ago, these things would be unthinkable. Now, local governments pass idiotic, poorly thought out ordinances for everything from trash can sizes to global warming to nuclear free zones.

It used to be that you could do whatever you wanted unless there was a law. Now, the attitude is that you can't do that unless there is a regulation permitting it.
I want a "thank" button.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:56 pm
by gemini
maintenanceguy wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
...That's because everybody runs to the government, their elected officials, whenever there is a problem. Elected officials have become increasingly sensitive to the cries and pleas of constituents. 100 years ago, these things would be unthinkable. Now, local governments pass idiotic, poorly thought out ordinances for everything from trash can sizes to global warming to nuclear free zones.

It used to be that you could do whatever you wanted unless there was a law. Now, the attitude is that you can't do that unless there is a regulation permitting it.
I want a "thank" button.
Exactly.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:09 pm
by mojo84
I think it's a waste. Just as other signs, warnings and such do not deter crime as far as I can tell.

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:51 pm
by sjfcontrol
Unfortunately, legislatures (local, state and fed), grade themselves by how many new laws they get passed. Where's the political party that brags about how many laws they get taken OFF the books?

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:07 pm
by R DAVIS
sjfcontrol wrote:Unfortunately, legislatures (local, state and fed), grade themselves by how many new laws they get passed. Where's the political party that brags about how many laws they get taken OFF the books?
http://www.lp.org/platform


"America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damned well pleased." -- P. J. O'Rourke

Re: Not sure how I feel about this

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:11 am
by Glockster
jimlongley wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Of course, if one has a CHL, or LTC, or CWP, or any other appropriate TLA, that law exempts you.

Since every man is presumed to know the law, informing these folks, accurately, is probably a public service.
And of course, also, no mention of that in the article.
And just as likely no mention of that in the handouts given to anyone.