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Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:40 pm
by RPBrown
I just heard a report on the news where someone interviewed our governor elect and asked him about OC. His comment was that if a bill allowing OC made it to his desk, he would defiantly sign it. Now all we have to do is get it out of committee and to his desk.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:05 pm
by steveincowtown
Yup, but here is what I don't get. Constitutional Carry is part of the Texas Republican platform:

http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uplo ... -Final.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Page 40)

and somehow we can't get anyone to even present a bill for any type of OC?????

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:51 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
steveincowtown wrote:. . . we can't get anyone to even present a bill for any type of OC?????
On what do you base this statement?

Chas.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:57 pm
by Texsquatch
My biggest concern is what OC may do to impact CHL. Could OC somehow lead to the end of 30.06 and make it easier for places to ban guns? Could it spell out more restrictions?

I'd be interested to see what the bill would look like.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:01 pm
by KD5NRH
steveincowtown wrote:Yup, but here is what I don't get. Constitutional Carry is part of the Texas Republican platform:

http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uplo ... -Final.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Page 40)

and somehow we can't get anyone to even present a bill for any type of OC?????
It would have to get on to the calendar. That's not going to happen unless we can get one up first requiring the death penalty for legislators who introduce "fluff bills" recognizing people's birthdays and such that run the clock out on actual legislation.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:31 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Texsquatch wrote:My biggest concern is what OC may do to impact CHL. Could OC somehow lead to the end of 30.06 and make it easier for places to ban guns? Could it spell out more restrictions?
In a word, NO. We'd kill the bill if it hurt concealed-carry. But that won't be necessary and I wish I could say more.

Chas.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:34 pm
by mr1337
steveincowtown wrote:Yup, but here is what I don't get. Constitutional Carry is part of the Texas Republican platform:

http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uplo ... -Final.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Page 40)
Oh man.
RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF PRIORITIZING CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY LEGISLATION

We call upon the 84th Texas Legislature to propose to the people of Texas a constitutional
amendment to strike “; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of
arms, with a view to prevent crime” from Article I, Section 23 of the Texas Constitution.
Further, we request the State Party Chair and the State Republican Executive Committee
consider adoption of such an amendment and other legislation necessary to remove restrictions
on Texans' right to own and bear arms a legislative priority for the Republican Party of Texas for
the 2015 legislative session and to utilize reasonable Party resources necessary to promote and
support their passage.
That's fantastic news, and definitely something to look forward to. Although I still recommend everyone to get a CHL (I'm assuming they'll still be around) for reciprocity and those places like 1,000 ft from a school that you can't carry unless licensed, or in TABC "Blue Sign" stores. But I wonder if that would be the end of TABC Red and Blue signs. If it is, that would be amazing as well. :anamatedbanana

But back to the OC topic. It would be great to get some legislation passed for it. Texas is one of only a handful of states that doesn't allow OC of handguns. We're behind the times, and we're supposed to be THE gun friendly state! I would definitely limit my OC'ing to maybe once a month (on the 2nd for "Every 2nd Matters") and while camping/hiking/etc. But as I hear, most people won't even notice.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:11 pm
by Texsquatch
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Texsquatch wrote:My biggest concern is what OC may do to impact CHL. Could OC somehow lead to the end of 30.06 and make it easier for places to ban guns? Could it spell out more restrictions?
In a word, NO. We'd kill the bill if it hurt concealed-carry. But that won't be necessary and I wish I could say more.

Chas.
Somehow I'm feeling more optimistic already. And not just about OC. What a strange new feeling.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:18 pm
by C-dub
RPBrown wrote:I just heard a report on the news where someone interviewed our governor elect and asked him about OC. His comment was that if a bill allowing OC made it to his desk, he would defiantly sign it. Now all we have to do is get it out of committee and to his desk.
Is defiantly the word you intended to use or was it definitely?

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:23 pm
by JP171
C-dub wrote:
RPBrown wrote:I just heard a report on the news where someone interviewed our governor elect and asked him about OC. His comment was that if a bill allowing OC made it to his desk, he would defiantly sign it. Now all we have to do is get it out of committee and to his desk.
Is defiantly the word you intended to use or was it definitely?

might have been both and purposely so :tiphat:

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:31 pm
by chuckybrown
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Texsquatch wrote:My biggest concern is what OC may do to impact CHL. Could OC somehow lead to the end of 30.06 and make it easier for places to ban guns? Could it spell out more restrictions?
In a word, NO. We'd kill the bill if it hurt concealed-carry. But that won't be necessary and I wish I could say more.

Chas.
Charles, I'm cautious about where I write my political checks....but if this moves forward, I most definitely will support it with my money.

Please keep us all posted. We appreciate all that you do!!!

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:33 pm
by SA-TX
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Texsquatch wrote:My biggest concern is what OC may do to impact CHL. Could OC somehow lead to the end of 30.06 and make it easier for places to ban guns? Could it spell out more restrictions?
In a word, NO. We'd kill the bill if it hurt concealed-carry. But that won't be necessary and I wish I could say more.

Chas.
Wahoo! :hurry:

Thank you Charles for the work you have done and will do on this issue. The circumstances in which you are doing it makes it all the more impressive. :tiphat:

SA-TX

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:01 pm
by joe817
Phew. Think this is gonna be a long thread.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:28 pm
by OlBill
chuckybrown wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Texsquatch wrote:My biggest concern is what OC may do to impact CHL. Could OC somehow lead to the end of 30.06 and make it easier for places to ban guns? Could it spell out more restrictions?
In a word, NO. We'd kill the bill if it hurt concealed-carry. But that won't be necessary and I wish I could say more.

Chas.
Charles, I'm cautious about where I write my political checks....but if this moves forward, I most definitely will support it with my money.

Please keep us all posted. We appreciate all that you do!!!
Me too.

Re: Greg Abbott and OC

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:41 pm
by airborned
Thanks Charles for the hard work! Constitutional carry would be nice but I would concede to open carry with a chl permit. What ever the bill may end up being I hope it's a good one.