State Park and Army Corp of Engineer

[garand308]

I am planning on taking a trip to Eisehower State Park (Texoma) and was confused on whether or not CHL was allowed. I am going to be camping and fishing IN the park, I won't be taking a boat out on the water. I know that CHL is usually allowed in a state park but I also know that the USCOE controls the lake. If I am staying on shore in the park is CHL okay or is it off limits because the park is on the lake?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[Keith B]

Welcome to the forum.

Corps of Engineers land extends up on the shoreline on their lakes. The CoE shoreline management plan defines what can be done on the shoreline that is CoE land. Maps are available showing how much land is CoE.

In the case of Eisenhower State park, the land belongs to CoE, but the Texas State Park Service manages the park itself. I have attached a zoomed in section of the map from the CoE shoreline map available here http://www.swt.usace.army.mil/Portals/4 ... p_maps.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; showing the area that is a CoE recreation area

Bottom line, that park is off limits for concealed carry as it is officially on CoE land. Most parks and campgrounds on CoE lakes will be prohibited.

[garand308]

Thanks for the reply and map. Unfortunately, you confirmed what I was thinking.

[cultzombie]

Am I premature in thinking that Morris vs. US Army Corps of Engineers has some bearing on this?

Reference: http://www.mountainstateslegal.org/case ... -engineers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-CZ

[Keith B]

Am I premature in thinking that Morris vs. US Army Corps of Engineers has some bearing on this?

Reference: http://www.mountainstateslegal.org/case ... -engineers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-CZ

It may eventually. Still pending.

[GlockDude26]

hopefully that case will open up this land for cc. it's completely ridiculous that you can have a shotgun and duck hunt but you can't cc a pistol..... really?

[anygunanywhere]

hopefully that case will open up this land for cc. it's completely ridiculous that you can have a shotgun and duck hunt but you can't cc a pistol..... really?

CofE are notorious infringers.

Anygunanywhere

[TBJK]

I pulled this from the case. Does it not mean that they can not ban firearms until the final ruling is made?

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the motion for preliminary injunction (docket no. 4) is GRANTED. The Corps is enjoined from enforcing 36 C.F.R. § 327.13 as to law-abiding individuals possessing functional firearms on Corps-administered public lands for the purpose of self-defense. This preliminary injunction shall remain in force until further notice of the Court.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that counsel shall contact the Court’s Clerk (jamie_gearhart@id.uscourts.gov) to set up a telephone status conference to determine how this case should proceed.

[Dadtodabone]

I pulled this from the case. Does it not mean that they can not ban firearms until the final ruling is made?

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the motion for preliminary injunction (docket no. 4) is GRANTED. The Corps is enjoined from enforcing 36 C.F.R. § 327.13 as to law-abiding individuals possessing functional firearms on Corps-administered public lands for the purpose of self-defense. This preliminary injunction shall remain in force until further notice of the Court.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that counsel shall contact the Court’s Clerk (jamie_gearhart@id.uscourts.gov) to set up a telephone status conference to determine how this case should proceed.

No.
http://www.nraila.org/legal/articles/20 ... n-ban.aspx

It should be noted that Chief Judge Winmill issued only a preliminary injunction, so the Corps will have the opportunity for a full evidentiary hearing or trial on the merits to get the court to lift the injunction.