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Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:30 am
by marcnm
Hi, new poster here. Wasn't sure where else to ask this. I was trying to add a local (Houston) gas station to the Texas3006.com website, but under sign type there isn't an option for the TABC "unlicensed possession" signs (see link below). Is it just understood that CHL carriers should be able to carry in gas stations?
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Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:36 am
by jmra
Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:36 am
by PhillRoath
marcnm wrote:Hi, new poster here. Wasn't sure where else to ask this. I was trying to add a local (Houston) gas station to the Texas3006.com website, but under sign type there isn't an option for the TABC "unlicensed possession" signs (see link below). Is it just understood that CHL carriers should be able to carry in gas stations?
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/publication ... eapons.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This sign does not apply to anyone with a CHL. Carry on.
ETA: jmra beat me to it.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:52 am
by WildBill
jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Welcome to the forum. The sign that you posted is not a 30.06 sign. You will see this same sign at just about every grocery store, convenience store, restaurant and gas station. If they sell alcoholic beverages and are not a bar, they will have this sign.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:04 pm
by GrillKing
jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Because if there is no listing, you don't know if there is a valid 30.06 sign or not. Listing an 'unlicensed possession....' sign confirms carry is OK.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:09 pm
by jmra
GrillKing wrote:jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Because if there is no listing, you don't know if there is a valid 30.06 sign or not. Listing an 'unlicensed possession....' sign confirms carry is OK.
I would find it counter productive to list places where it's ok to carry as that list would be almost impossible to complete. The very name of the website suggest listing places that are off limits due to 30.06 sign posting.
ETA: listing a place on such a site as being ok to carry because of the absence of a 30.06 sign is a really bad idea as a 30.06 sign could go up the next day. By limiting listings to incorrectly posted locations and locations with legitimate 30.06 signs you are assured readers are getting up to date accurate information. I see no reason why the sign the OP mentioned (or the gas station) would need to be listed.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:11 pm
by jmra
WildBill wrote:jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Welcome to the forum. The sign that you posted is not a 30.06 sign. You will see this same sign at just about every grocery store, convenience store, restaurant and gas station. If they sell alcoholic beverages and are not a bar, they will have this sign.
Thanks for the welcome Bill. First one I've gotten in almost 5 years.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:12 pm
by WildBill
GrillKing wrote:jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Because if there is no listing, you don't know if there is a valid 30.06 sign or not. Listing an 'unlicensed possession....' sign confirms carry is OK.
Not necessarily. A business could post both.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:38 pm
by WildBill
jmra wrote:WildBill wrote:jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Welcome to the forum. The sign that you posted is not a 30.06 sign. You will see this same sign at just about every grocery store, convenience store, restaurant and gas station. If they sell alcoholic beverages and are not a bar, they will have this sign.
Thanks for the welcome Bill. First one I've gotten in almost 5 years.
No problem! I guess I should have cut instead of pasted.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:20 pm
by marcnm
Thanks guys! I just started carrying recently and never paid attention to such signs before. Plus it was white with transparent background a bit hard read unless you stopped and stared at it. Just wanted to make sure "unlicensed possession" did mean LEO only.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:25 pm
by carlson1
You are good to carry there.
It has to a legal 30.06 sign. Remember the 30.06 sign must be in English and Spanish.
Welcome to the Forum.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:53 pm
by GrillKing
WildBill wrote:GrillKing wrote:jmra wrote:Welcome to the forum. That sign does not restrict a CHL holder from entering the station. If you have a CHL you are licensed. This sign is about unlicensed carry. Why would you want to put it on texas3006.com?
Because if there is no listing, you don't know if there is a valid 30.06 sign or not. Listing an 'unlicensed possession....' sign confirms carry is OK.
Not necessarily. A business could post both.
True, but I assumed if both were posted when observed by the submitter both would be listed by the submitter. If only the unlicensed possession sign was listed, it is unlikely the 30.06 is posted, at least at the time of submission.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:06 pm
by GrillKing
jmra wrote:
I would find it counter productive to list places where it's ok to carry as that list would be almost impossible to complete. The very name of the website suggest listing places that are off limits due to 30.06 sign posting.
ETA: listing a place on such a site as being ok to carry because of the absence of a 30.06 sign is a really bad idea as a 30.06 sign could go up the next day. By limiting listings to incorrectly posted locations and locations with legitimate 30.06 signs you are assured readers are getting up to date accurate information. I see no reason why the sign the OP mentioned (or the gas station) would need to be listed.
I disagree. How many times on this forum has someone asked about a location and..... No information is available? Knowing that a location is not posted is helpful. Yes, it could change, but that applies to all signs: correct, incorrect, added, removed, replaced at a future date. At least at some point in time the information was correctly submitted for all to use and for the relatively rare occasions that new signs are added (or removed or changed), (rare at least in my experience), the person that discovers that change can update the site. The listing would likely be correct most of the time.
More information is good, IMHO.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:38 am
by jmra
GrillKing wrote:jmra wrote:
I would find it counter productive to list places where it's ok to carry as that list would be almost impossible to complete. The very name of the website suggest listing places that are off limits due to 30.06 sign posting.
ETA: listing a place on such a site as being ok to carry because of the absence of a 30.06 sign is a really bad idea as a 30.06 sign could go up the next day. By limiting listings to incorrectly posted locations and locations with legitimate 30.06 signs you are assured readers are getting up to date accurate information. I see no reason why the sign the OP mentioned (or the gas station) would need to be listed.
I disagree. How many times on this forum has someone asked about a location and..... No information is available? Knowing that a location is not posted is helpful. Yes, it could change, but that applies to all signs: correct, incorrect, added, removed, replaced at a future date. At least at some point in time the information was correctly submitted for all to use and for the relatively rare occasions that new signs are added (or removed or changed), (rare at least in my experience), the person that discovers that change can update the site. The listing would likely be correct most of the time.
More information is good, IMHO.
You can disagree but your thought process is in direct conflict with logic. By listing every place that is not posted the site becomes much more cumbersome and thus much less user friendly and thus much less utilized than it would be by simply listing places that are posted.
It would be about as logical as listing non-sex offenders on a website designed to help people identify sex offenders.
Re: Gas stations on Texas3006.com
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:52 am
by RogueUSMC
The 'Unlicensed Possession' sign does not mean it is ok to carry there...that sign is completely irrelevant to us licensed carriers. All that sign does is make what is already a misdemeanor into a felony...that's all.
You can have this sign next to that one...
Or you can have this one next to it...
The fact that either of the above signs can be posted legally right next to the 'Unlicensed Possession' sign logically indicates that it is irrelevant to us.