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Not that we encountered this exact scenario at work or anything.....

DWI is a class B misdemeanor. If a CHL holder has a gun IN their vehicle or on their person (carrying under MPA or CHL - you pick), they get an automatic class A misdemeanor UCW charge.

Interesting - I never really thought through that but it makes sense.

That is the way I teach it in class.

gigag04 wrote:If a CHL holder has a gun IN their vehicle

Even in the trunk of the vehicle or some other inaccessable place (truck bed locked containers, etc.)?

Just playing devils advocate, I do not condone or practice such things.

Makes sense. Another reason to not drink and drive and shoots a hole in the argument "I'm carrying under MPA not my CHL."

That's what they taught us also. 0 tolerance.
Purely irresonsible to drink and have a gun in the car.

7075-T7 wrote:

gigag04 wrote:If a CHL holder has a gun IN their vehicle

Even in the trunk of the vehicle or some other inaccessable place (truck bed locked containers, etc.)?

Just playing devils advocate, I do not condone or practice such things.

I believe if he gun is locked in the trunk, a pickup's tool box or, is inaccessable without exiting the viehicle it's OK.

That would be court dependent. Care custody and control is the issue.

My question is why does this not happen to police, we have had a few APD officers arrested for DWI in the past few years and all were allowed to continue working and as far as I know were not charged with UCW even though I know of one case where he was on duty therefor presumably carrying a weapon.

...very appropriate question...several local officers have been arrested DUI in recent years...it wouldn't do for the media to find that citizens are being charged with UCW and officers are being given a pass...is there any case history where anyone has been charged in this manner yet???

Yet another reason I'm glad I live where I do. All of my drinking is done (not that it is all that much) at home or at a neighbor's house.

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Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon, IIRC

Also what I was taught in class.

what i dont get is why anyone thinks alcohol,guns,driving go together period.

loadedliberal wrote:My question is why does this not happen to police, we have had a few APD officers arrested for DWI in the past few years and all were allowed to continue working and as far as I know were not charged with UCW even though I know of one case where he was on duty therefor presumably carrying a weapon.

Because it's not illegal for police to carry while intoxicated. A CHL holder can be charged under §46.035, Unlawful Carrying of Hangun by License Holder (subsection (d) to be specific); there is no equivalent offense for police.