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Man oh man what a day. I was posting in another forum today (Playstation) and a discussion about crime in the US and Canada came up. What ensued was a complete disreguard for the facts and some slamming of CHLs. Check it out:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playsta ... ing&page=1

When you go to a children's forum you get childish results...

mtrend posted "I don't recall where I heard/read this but apparently, there are more family members that die because of guns than robberers... Nice 'protection'..."

This is actually a "statistic" that was generated by the anti-gunners. The way it was obtained was by taking all deaths (regardless of the actual source of death) and then evaluating how many of the households that experienced a death had a gun. Using this statistic is like claiming that my Father-in-Law died of cancer because he kept a .38 revolver in his closet.

If they really want to argue about guns & safety, they should first spend some time evaluating the numbers they use.

BTW, Interpol's numbers are (IIRC) calculated using the same activities as crimes in all countries. Saying their numbers are invalid is like arguing that a 9mm bullet is a different size in Germany than in the US because the US uses S.A.E. as its normal method of measuring things. The reason offered is completely irrelevant to the claim. Just because the U.S.A reports some things as crimes while other countries don't is irrelevant.

Dustin B,

Excellent point!

DustinB wrote:When you go to a children's forum you get childish results...

Actually, all but one of the guys in that thread are over 21. There are many college students in there that I talk with regularly.

Interesting, I guess it falls to uniformed beliefs. It's a shame so many people get false information stuck in their head and are ready to believe it to the death.

DustinB wrote:Interesting, I guess it falls to uniformed beliefs. It's a shame so many people get false information stuck in their head and are ready to believe it to the death.

It also doesn't help that most of those guys are Canadian

man I'm really sad there are people out there that would believe that stuff.

"just give the BG what he wants" to paraphrase one poster...what if what he wants is your life are you going to just lay down and give him that too?? what if he wants your GF or wife or daughter??

second there are between 1 million and 2.5 million DGU (defencive gun uses) in America every year. 90% of the time no shots are even fired as the BG runs off wetting himself.

third while we're throwing out the 2nd amendment why not throw out the 1st amendment don't need that any more. and the 4th that's out dated now. so now Gov. can bust down your door with F/A MP5s and what are you going to do about it roll up in to the fetal position and cry. real good tactic there.

show them:

http://www.a-human-right.com/

and my favorite one:




PS: check my sig. i love that quote.

You might as well argue your point with the Brady Bunch. You gotta watch out, these are people that will vote for Hillary.

There are so many things wrong with my generation.

They happen to have brought up most of them. Even if they weren't trying to prove my point.

I'm glad you at least gave them solid reasons.

Some people will never be swayed. When I tried to explain to my step-sister that my new, properly-functioning gun wasn't just going to "go off," she still preferred to remain in the dark.

The idea that she could be in enough danger at any point to possibly need a gun was too much for her to face.

robert_d_niro

Their posts said that if guns were illegal in our country, we'd have a lower crime rate. You might point out that in Washington, DC all firearms are illegal and they have one of the highest crime rates and murder rates in the country. I doubt this will change anyone's opinion, but I'd be interested in their response.

The link originates in California. 'Nuff said.

And Phil, didn't you hear, they're just waiting for the criminals to read the paper, find out the guns are illegal, and turn them in. They're hoping for a full reversal of the crime rate by 2045.

Gunfacts.info has one of the best PDF's I've ever seen for defending yourself from anti's. It has mountains of supporting evidence and logical arguements that will tear through anything but blind rejection.

S&W6946 wrote:robert_d_niro

Their posts said that if guns were illegal in our country, we'd have a lower crime rate. You might point out that in Washington, DC all firearms are illegal and they have one of the highest crime rates and murder rates in the country. I doubt this will change anyone's opinion, but I'd be interested in their response.

I definitely brought up that point and they dismissed it as rubbish.