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Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:27 am
by heliguy972
Don't know that I would ever do it but, any legal issues with carrying a Glock 27 with AAC Suppressor concealed?? Got my CHL and my Form 4 in wallet....If I had to use this combo in self defense, any speculation on negative impact on a case review by the Police?

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:52 am
by Donaldb
I'd be more worried if you ever had to go to court over it. They would use the same baseless argument that they use when you use reloads.

donald

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:37 pm
by seamusTX
In Texas, it is a felony offense to possess a supressor (the statute says silencer -- PC 6.05(4)). Having NFA registration is a defense to prosecution.

IANAL, but that kind of thing makes me uncomfortable. It would be a lot better for the legal owner of NFA stuff if it were an exception.

Other than that, I can't see how use of a suppressor could be a factor in otherwise justified self defense. The press would have a field day, though.

- Jim

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:14 pm
by bdickens
Why in the world would you want to do that anyway?

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:17 pm
by seamusTX
To avoid hearing damage.

I'm pretty sure if you discharge a centerfire pistol in an enclosed space, you're going to have some permanent hearing loss and probably ringing in your ears for a few days.

I don't understand why police departments didn't make them standard years ago.

- Jim

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:25 pm
by boomerang
They require mufflers on cars driven on public roads.

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:57 pm
by dicion
Yea, what If I feel like being courteous to my neighbors, while defending myself at night?

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:47 pm
by ScottDLS
seamusTX wrote:In Texas, it is a felony offense to possess a supressor (the statute says silencer -- PC 6.05(4)). Having NFA registration is a defense to prosecution.

IANAL, but that kind of thing makes me uncomfortable. It would be a lot better for the legal owner of NFA stuff if it were an exception.

Other than that, I can't see how use of a suppressor could be a factor in otherwise justified self defense. The press would have a field day, though.

- Jim
When the CHL law was first effective in 1996, having a CHL was only a "Defense to Prosecution" of UCW. I didn't wait until it was an "exception" to start carrying. I possess several NFA registered items and I'm not cringing in fear of "taking the ride".

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:18 am
by Syntax360
seamusTX wrote:I don't understand why police departments didn't make them standard years ago.
Adds significant bulk to the weapon system, introduces a new source of malfunctions, and when a police officer pulls the trigger, they want the entire world hear that report (especially other officers) and come running...

I tend to look at my carry gun as an emergency response tool, and I really, really doubt I would have time to whip out the 'ol Evo-9 and thread it on if I am ever unfortunate enough to have to use the weapon. Most self defense situations are pretty face to face - I do not want to give the bad guy a 6" extension to my muzzle to grab on to to practically guarantee a malfunction. I do keep my nightstand gun threaded up and ready to go...

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:38 am
by joe817
I know "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society", but isn't this taking 'polite' to the extreme? :shock:

God forbid, if I'm ever involved in a situation where deadly force is justified, I honestly couldn't care less if my neighbor down the street is inconvenienced by loud noise from gunshots they hear from my gun. Quite the contrary, I'd like them to know something bad is going down, and call 911 pronto.

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:42 am
by USA1
joe817 wrote:I know "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society", but isn't this taking 'polite' to the extreme? :shock:

God forbid, if I'm ever involved in a situation where deadly force is justified, I honestly couldn't care less if my neighbor down the street is inconvenienced by loud noise from gunshots they hear from my gun. Quite the contrary, I'd like them to know something bad is going down, and call 911 pronto.
Joe , i'll bet your neighbors are used to hearing gun shots coming from your house . :shock:
word on the street is ...you're quite the party animal :rock" :willynilly: :rock" :willynilly:

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:53 am
by joe817
USA1 wrote:
joe817 wrote:I know "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society", but isn't this taking 'polite' to the extreme? :shock:

God forbid, if I'm ever involved in a situation where deadly force is justified, I honestly couldn't care less if my neighbor down the street is inconvenienced by loud noise from gunshots they hear from my gun. Quite the contrary, I'd like them to know something bad is going down, and call 911 pronto.
Joe , i'll bet your neighbors are used to hearing gun shots coming from your house . :shock:
word on the street is ...you're quit the party animal :rock" :willynilly: :rock" :willynilly:
Nononononononononononono! That's a vicious rumor started by someone who lives northwest of Houston in a town beginning with "T" and ending with "l". And I'm not telling who it is! :waiting: :nono: :boxing

The only noise the neighbors hear from my house is from Toby & Munch barking while trying to catch the backyard squirrel who taunts and teases them relentlessly. :smilelol5:

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:26 pm
by blue
A carry should be
1-Dependable
2-Reliable
3-EXPENDABLE!!!

If used-it will most likely be:
-confiscated for evidence.
-given NO care or Respect.
-very difficult to retrieve, months/years, big bucks, or both.
-may Never get it back, or badly damaged.

Good solid Working Carrys are best.
Save the "Sunday and BBQ" and "Keepsakes".

Regards,
Blue

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:33 pm
by Carrots
Quite. I can’t help getting the willies when I see folks post their $3000 high end 1911's in the daily carry thread. Whilst "it is only money" / "we are talking about my life here" / "Oh I have 10 of those at home" &c it is a little OTT IMO. When I unearth the cash for one of these bad boys it will be my last choice for chugging around with day to day, but of course one mans $3k monthly earnings is another mans Friday Night Beer Money. Alas.

Re: Suppressor Carry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:45 pm
by SlowDave
seamusTX wrote:To avoid hearing damage.

I'm pretty sure if you discharge a centerfire pistol in an enclosed space, you're going to have some permanent hearing loss and probably ringing in your ears for a few days.

I don't understand why police departments didn't make them standard years ago.

- Jim
I dunno. When I was a kid, we got to the deer blind way early before light, and my dad said I could take a nap and he'd wake me when it got light. Well, at first light, he saw a nice buck and shot it. He may claim that he didn't want me to startle upon waking and scare the deer away, but I think he just wanted to see how high I'd jump when he fired the .308 inside that tin blind. Well, surprise... I didn't even wake up. He woke me after shooting and told me he'd shot a deer and I said he was lying. Couldn't believe it. And it didn't affect my hearing at all, regardless of what my wife says.

What? Speak up.