The focal point for Texas firearms information and discussions
http://texaschlforum.com/
seamusTX wrote:Many gun stores (the small, single-owner ones) or gunsmiths will keep a firearm in situations like this. You just have to hit the phone directory and call around.
If you leave it and pick it up the same day, no paperwork is required. If you leave it overnight, you have to fill out a form 4473 to get it back.
I would steer clear of public lockers. Often more than one person has a master key.
- Jim
Sent PMpropellerhead wrote:I'm visiting Abilene next month and will stop by Dyess AFB. Being federal property, I can't take my carry piece with me on base. Is there a place to store my gun temporarily?
I had the unfortunate experience of working for TDC for 14 years, and quit in 2000. Up until that time, you could take your weapon to one of the pickets (the towers that surround the perimeter) and they would keep your firearm secured there for you. Mostly LEOs did this, but occasionally when someone was hunting on state land, and needed to enter the unit to sign the forms, the weapons were secured there. One of the pickets was the designated armory. The next time you need to go, give the unit a call and ask the warden if you can store it.Luggo1 wrote:I occasionally have to travel around the state and go into TDC units...I faced the same problem. At times I have had to rent a cheap motel room, lock the gun up, lock the case to a piece of furniture etc... basically do the best I can, go to the prison and then go back and retrieve the weapon.
The degree of vehicle search varies from unit to unit, but it is a chance I am not willing to take.
Luggo1 wrote:I occasionally have to travel around the state and go into TDC units...I faced the same problem. At times I have had to rent a cheap motel room, lock the gun up, lock the case to a piece of furniture etc... basically do the best I can, go to the prison and then go back and retrieve the weapon.
The degree of vehicle search varies from unit to unit, but it is a chance I am not willing to take.
Texas Administrative Code
TITLE 37 PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONS
PART 6 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE
CHAPTER 151 GENERAL PROVISIONS
RULE §151.21 Weapons Policy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(a) Policy.
(1) The Texas Department of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) requires that all persons carrying a firearm shall unload and safely secure the firearm prior to entering a TDCJ correctional facility. For purposes of visiting a TDCJ correctional facility, a peace officer, a person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, or a person who is otherwise authorized to carry a deadly weapon shall unload and secure the weapon(s) in the locked trunk of a vehicle, or a locked compartment of a vehicle if the vehicle does not have a trunk, immediately upon parking or while stopped at the first security checkpoint, whichever occurs first. A peace officer may also store his weapon in any other TDCJ authorized location prior to entering the perimeter fence.
(2) It is a felony under the Penal Code:
(A) to possess a deadly weapon while in a correctional facility, unless the person possessing the deadly weapon is a peace officer or is an officer or employee of the correctional facility authorized to possess the deadly weapon while on duty or traveling to or from the person's place of assignment;
(B) to provide a deadly weapon to an inmate of a correctional facility;
(C) to possess or go with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or other prohibited weapon, within 1,000 feet of premises the location of which is designated by TDCJ as a place of execution under Article 43.19, Code of Criminal Procedure, on a day that a sentence of death is set to be imposed on the designated premises and the person received notice that:
(i) going within 1,000 feet of the premises with a weapon listed under this subsection was prohibited; or
(ii) possessing a weapon listed under this subsection within 1,000 feet of the premises was prohibited; or
(D) for a person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 441, Government Code to carry a handgun on the premises of a correctional facility, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed.
(3) Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section an employee of TDCJ is prohibited from carrying a firearm in a state-owned vehicle, or on his person, or in his personal vehicle while on duty. An employee who is licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code is subject to the statutes described in subsection (a)(2) of this section and:
(A) is prohibited from carrying the handgun in a state-owned vehicle, or on his person or in his personal vehicle while on duty;
(B) shall comply with paragraph (1) of this subsection when approaching a correctional facility; and
(C) shall ensure that the gun is secured in the locked trunk of a personal vehicle, or a locked compartment if the vehicle does not have a trunk, before exiting the vehicle to enter any TDCJ office space.
(b) Definitions. The following words and terms, when used in this section, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.
(1) Correctional Facility--A confinement facility operated by or under contract with TDCJ, and a community corrections facility operated by a community supervision and corrections department. The premises of a correctional facility means a building or portion of a building.
(2) Deadly weapon--A firearm or anything manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting death or serious bodily injury, or anything that in the manner of its use or intended use is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury.
(3) Exempt employee--An employee in the position of warden, assistant warden, or an administrative position eligible for custodial officer certification and hazardous duty pay under §151.51(d)(1)(D) of this title (relating to Custodial Officer Certification and Hazardous Duty Pay Guidelines).
(4) Firearm--Any device designed, made, or adapted to expel a projectile through a barrel by using the energy generated by an explosion or burning substance or any device readily convertible to that use.
(5) Handgun--Any firearm that is designed, made, or adapted to be fired with one hand.
(c) Exceptions.
(1) An exempt employee may carry a firearm in a State-owned vehicle for purposes of responding to emergency situations involving inmates or confinees, or on his person in the event of an actual emergency situation.
(2) State-owned housing, other than Bachelor Officers' Quarters, is excepted from this rule, only to the extent that weapons are secured under lock and key within the house.
(3) An employee may carry a weapon(s) on duty if the employee is a peace officer in the Office of Inspector General or possesses the weapon(s) in accordance with:
(A) the Use of Force Plan;
(B) Parole Division policy authorizing certain parole officers to carry firearms under Occupations Code §1701.257; or
(C) other applicable agency policy.
(4) The written consent of the executive director or his designee to an employee is effective to create an exception from this rule.
(d) Duties of the Executive Director.
(1) The executive director shall ensure that agency policies are consistent with this rule. Policies adopted to ensure the safety and security of correctional facilities may be more restrictive than this rule and may encompass weapons not covered by this rule.
(2) The executive director shall ensure that signs are posted in English and Spanish to provide adequate notice of the substance of this section.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Note: The provisions of this §151.21 adopted to be effective April 8, 1996, 21 TexReg 2476; amended to be effective February 5, 2004, 29 TexReg 1212
I plan on calling tomorrow or on Friday. When I was stationed there, they used to open the gun range to base personnel to shoot their own guns.justaguy wrote:What about contacting the base ahead of time and inquire about base security holding the weapon in their armory for you while you are on the base?
I've lived on several Navy/CG/ANG bases, and there was never any issue with me bringing my weapons on/off the base as long as they were cased/unloaded, and registered with base security.