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This may be a stupid question, but I searched and I couldn't find the answer.

If I get the Utah Non-Resident CCW Permit, do I still need the Texas CHL? Or can I carry in Texas, with no worries at all, with the Utah permit?

If so, how do I go about obtaining the Utah permit?

You can carry with the UT permit as long as it's a) valid and b) we have reciprocity with UT. However, you're more likely to run into LEOs who don't understand reciprocity, I'd guess. You can beat the rap but you may have to take a ride... that kind of deal. And you have no idea if that reciprocity agreement might ever go away, but then, you don't know that the TX CHL will be valid the day after you receive it either.

You go to a UT certified instructor. They're harder to find than TX instructors, obviously, but there are people who do it. Google is your friend, or search this site.

You can legally carry in Texas with any non-resident permit, as long as it is a state we have reciprocity with. I suggest you print a copy of the reciprocity agreement, and keep it with you or in your car.

You get a Utah license by taking a Utah class and submitting an application. No different than Texas, other than the class AND the application are much shorter. The license fee to Utah is $65.25

There are two active Utah instructors on this board - myself in DFW area and Charles Cotton in Houston area. There are also others that you can find here: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/docume ... te_020.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Right on, I'll more than likely go that route then, at least for now.

I reckon the Crossfire-training.com website belongs to you then. So I'll probably get to meet you in either the February or March class. I may take the Texas CHL class first though, just in case any leo encounters that may not understand.

Thanks,
John

possom813 wrote:Right on, I'll more than likely go that route then, at least for now.

I reckon the Crossfire-training.com website belongs to you then. So I'll probably get to meet you in either the February or March class. I may take the Texas CHL class first though, just in case any leo encounters that may not understand.

Thanks,
John

If you are thinking of having both the Texas and Utah licenses. Crossfire offers a combination course that would be much more cost (and time) effective than getting them separately.
If I had to do it again that is the way I would do it. And remember once you get the Utah license, there is no class required for renewal and the renewal fee is only $10.
Here is a link to crossfire's website: http://www.crossfire-training.com/

*Edit to correct my engineer english.

possom813 wrote:I may take the Texas CHL class first though, just in case any leo encounters that may not understand.

Thanks,
John

I took my class for both from Crossfire, and highly recommend it. You can actually do both all at once save a few bucks on the class! See http://www.crossfire-training.com/conte ... fp-classes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

EDIT to add: FlynJay beat me to it!!

+1 for the TX & UT CHL class from Crossfire (Linda & Marty). Very FINE folks that teach an enjoyable class (the coffee and donuts are a NICE touch too). I hadn't a clue about the UT CFP until I attended the Crossfire class. Linda and Marty explained that you get a few extra states with UT and extra benefits (ie - shall issue in 60 days, etc.). Additional cost for the UT part of the class was very inexpensive.

PUCKER wrote:+1 for the TX & UT CHL class from Crossfire (Linda & Marty). Very FINE folks that teach an enjoyable class (the coffee and donuts are a NICE touch too). I hadn't a clue about the UT CFP until I attended the Crossfire class. Linda and Marty explained that you get a few extra states with UT and extra benefits (ie - shall issue in 60 days, etc.). Additional cost for the UT part of the class was very inexpensive.

I have the Utah CCW and where it states "shall issue in 60 days" may be written, but is not true. Because of the back log, it took a lot longer than 60 days and many phone calls to their DPS before I or my Son got ours.

I took the class from Linda and Marty, very fine folks there.

As far as time goes, I took the class on 10/4, mailed it on 10/7. It was received in Utah on 10/17 (it actually arrived the Friday before, but they're closed on Friday) and it was in my mailbox on 12/15

Some people do both and they seem to get the Utah license much quicker than the Texas license.

I think I'm going to get my UT permit in a couple years, so I have a long long overlap between when my TX and UT permits expire.

I took my TX Class back in November. Is it possible to simply file the UT paper work & fees with out taking an additional class? Charles Cotton was my instructor. (Excellent class and this web site is good too.)

I wish I had known since I have family in UT and in WA and visit at least once a year or so. IIRC, WA accepts UT's CHL but not TX's.

Further, if TX accepts UT and the UT CHL is cheaper, why not just a UT CHL in the 1st place and skip getting TX?

Scott

Paddler112 wrote:I took my TX Class back in November. Is it possible to simply file the UT paper work & fees with out taking an additional class? Charles Cotton was my instructor. (Excellent class and this web site is good too.)

I wish I had known since I have family in UT and in WA and visit at least once a year or so. IIRC, WA accepts UT's CHL but not TX's.

Further, if TX accepts UT and the UT CHL is cheaper, why not just a UT CHL in the 1st place and skip getting TX?

Scott

To get the UT license you have to take the UT class. You do get a lot more states with the TX license since a good number of states do not recognize non-resident licenses.

If you have neither then taking the TExas CHL and Utah class together is much cheaper than taking them sepertely. I belive that the Utah cost $20 more if you take it in one of her Texas CHL class. Otherwise, it costs you $70 if you do it sepertely. You WILL get your Utah license first, and it will be in 60 days. This will allow you to start carrying while you wait for your Texas CHL to come in.

Linda teaches the class out of Roanok in a nice building, and she is much more sophisticaed that my other teachers. She actually does a full presentation, with video clips, etc. My Texas CHL instructor just opened up the Texas Concealed Handgun laws booklet and just read it to the class, and we tried to follow on. No presentation, videos, nuthing.

If I'd taken the classes together it would have been a foot race. I got my TX license in 39 days.

Another reason people take the TX instead of the UT...They don't KNOW they can take the UT or they don't have a convenient UT instructor. There are a LOT more TX instructors in TX than UT instructors in TX.

That non-resident thing would be a big reason. Colorado requires a resident permit and Kansas doesn't allow UT at all, for those who travel to these fairly close states.