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Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:46 pm
by rudy64
While visiting the Grapevine Mills Mall in the Metroplex, I noticed that it has large green signs that state that no handguns are allowed in the mall. Since these are not 30.06 signs, are they valid? Or does it not matter since the mall might be private property.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:08 pm
by jimlongley
I wonder when they changed their signs?
Which entrance did you go through, the front entrance has had a very compliant sign for years.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:14 pm
by rudy64
I usually enter the entrance with the football in front. Jim, does this mean that the mall is a legitimate no carry mall?
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:25 pm
by Kalrog
rudy64 wrote:I usually enter the entrance with the football in front. Jim, does this mean that the mall is a legitimate no carry mall?
Only if you received legal notification - which YOU did not.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:33 pm
by rudy64
Well I agree with this assessment, will the police or a DA see it that way? It's just that I have never had a run in with the law and I don't want to either.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:34 pm
by Mike1951
Grapevine Mills and Katy Mills malls have been discussed many times. Please use the search function.
The issue has always been that the otherwise compliant signs are posted on the side walls inside the mall entrances.
Thus they are not obvious. But I don't recall anyone stating that the signs were not compliant in content and size.
Mills Corp recently sold these properties. If they have changed out compliant 30.06 signs for non-compliant ones, it could reflect a change in corporate policy. But that's just wishful thinking.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:48 pm
by SC1903A3
Anybody want to volunteer to make a camera run and post the pictures here?
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:00 pm
by BigBlueDodge
Grapevine Mills posts 30.06 signs that reference the orginal bill in 1995 when the CHL laws were enacted. However, their signs have not been updated to the current 30.06 wording. Technically, they are non-compliant signs. If you call Grapevine Police department they will tell you that Grapevine Mills is off limits for CHL. They do not want CHL holders carrying on their property. They have been lazy about updating their signs. So the choice is yours. If you get caught, I doubt that the arresting officer is going to buy your non-compliance story. He'll let the lawyers and judges figure it out.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:12 pm
by Mike1951
BigBlueDodge wrote:Grapevine Mills posts 30.06 signs that were compliant back in 1995 when the CHL laws were enacted.
I know what you're saying, but 30.06 didn't exist in the 1995 version. Apparently you are correct about the old signs. Living in Houston, I could only judge by Katy Mills, which has compliant 30.06 signs, but out of clear view.
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:19 pm
by Crossfire
SC1903A3 wrote:Anybody want to volunteer to make a camera run and post the pictures here?
Here ya go. I ran right out there, just for YOU!
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:22 pm
by agbullet2k1
Well, my gun doesn't look like that, so there. Obviously they don't want white cartoonish looking revolvers like the one from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit."
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:11 pm
by KaiserB
agbullet2k1 wrote:Well, my gun doesn't look like that, so there. Obviously they don't want white cartoonish looking revolvers like the one from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit."
Its a derringer
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:02 pm
by DoubleJ
KaiserB wrote:agbullet2k1 wrote:Well, my gun doesn't look like that, so there. Obviously they don't want white cartoonish looking revolvers like the one from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit."
Its a derringer
...was just thinking the same thing
Re: Grapevine Mills Mall
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:02 pm
by jimlongley
That's pretty much the same sign I recall from several years ago, but it wasn't at all entrances, just entrance 2, which most people think of as the main entrance, is that still the case?