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I work in an auto shop. I should be getting my CHL in the mail by the end of the month. I ride my Harley (without saddlebags or any means of storage) to work 99% of the time.

My question is........what do I do with my pistol while I am at work WITHOUT causing my boss any legal problems? Would it be enough to just bolt a lock box to my tool box? It would be locked and in no way be in his control or accessible to him.

Oh yeah...as of now I "car carry" and I dont want to be without it. My pistol saved my bacon last week.

David,
What happened last week?

Is there any reason you wouldn't be able to keep it on you while working?

mdek wrote:Is there any reason you wouldn't be able to keep it on you while working?

Working on cars would be hard on a pistol and it would cause a concealed weapon to become open carry during the day.

I do not have to work on cars anymore (married a doc and own my own company ), but in my 'ute, I did and it would not be possible.

texasag

This is what happened last week.....
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin ... today.html


I used to deliver to a shop...the owner open carried ALL of the time. However, to keep a 5" Kimber concealed may pose a problem. when I get me a holster for my Kahr it may be more possible but still a pain in the......side.

Target1911 wrote:My question is........what do I do with my pistol while I am at work WITHOUT causing my boss any legal problems?

Your boss only has a problem if he has actual possession, or "constructive possession" (meaning he knows where your pistol is and he could access it without restriction).

Even if he knows exactly where it is, a pistol in your locked saddlebags doesn't cause him any more legal issues than the guns for sale in Wal Mart. I guarantee you he knows where those guns are; he just doesn't have "constructive possession" of them, because they're locked away.

Target1911 wrote:This is what happened last week.....
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin ... today.html

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CompVest wrote:

Target1911 wrote:This is what happened last week.....
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin ... today.html

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Copied from Defensive Carry:

I will try to keep this short.....
I drive a tow truck. I was picking up a car on the left shoulder of a very busy hwy. Needless to say, most of the cars didnt even act like I was there....as always.

I had finished loading the car and was picking up my traffic cones. While I was doing this an SUV was not giving me much room. I dropped the cone and backed out of the way. When I dropped the cone, it fell over into the lane of traffic and the SUV hit it.

He slamed on his breaks and come to complete stop and put his car in park....IN THE FAST LANE of traffic moving 70mph.

As he is getting out I am tossing the cones on the bed of my truck and heading to the cab of my truck.

He asked if I had thrown the cone in front of him. I told what had happened and said I was sorry that he hit it.

I guess he didnt like the answer and got even more upset. (verbal remarks that I wont repeat) He then began writing down the company info on my passenger door as I am climbing up into my truck.

At this time he reaches for my door handle. I reach to lock it but he gets it open before I can.

He gets the door open and appears to be entering my truck. At this time I am thinking...this guy is NUTS. He parked his car in the FAST lane during rush hour and now he trying to get in my truck. I draw my gun from the console, aim COM, and yell at him to get away from my truck. His eyes got the size of tires and said he just wanted my name. I told him it was none of his business and to get away. He said "now your really in trouble and slammed my door.

I drive away and call 911. Disp asked if I wanted to make a report. I declined telling her that i just wanted to call it in because I had nothing to hide. She got my name and said have a great evening.

About 30 min later an Officer called me. The other guy was making a report and the LEO wanted my side. I told him what happened and he said have a great day. Didnt ask for my whole name or DOB or any other info. Just asked, IF needed, could he contact me on that same number. I said yes sir.


They also called my boss, who already knew the story. According to my boss the other guy said, " apparently the laws have changed in Texas. Your driver is legal to carry and I could have been shot for opening his door."

My boss man said he didnt blame me for doing what I did.

I am just thank full...1. I didnt get hurt,,,2 I didnt have to shoot.

maybe that guy will think twice about opening a strangers door in the future.

One thing that really bothers me about this, is the LEO gave him my name. I dont like that at all. Now he can find out where I live. I hope i dont see him in my drive way. That could be a bad thing.

CompVest wrote:

Target1911 wrote:This is what happened last week.....
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin ... today.html

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It is a VERY good forum to be a part of............But someone beat me to the cut n' paste

David,
Wow. You did Ok. Glad that you didn't have to fire. I'm not going to shoot tonight, spent too much money racing last weekend. See you next week

ON TOPIC: I think as long as you keep it "locked up" you boss should not have any problems. He is not in possession of the gun, you are. It would be no different than if he was at your house for dinner. You have guns there, but they ar enot in his possession.

Target1911 wrote:It is a VERY good forum to be a part of.

Okay. I might have to join and check it out.

Since you work at an auto shop, I'll assume that you wear some sort of work shirt or jumpsuit. I know it's possible to do this kind of stuff without too much trouble while carrying. I've done plenty of major work in/under cars while wearing my Hi-Power. I wear mine OWB underneath a work shirt. If I were in your situation, I'd keep my firearm on me, as there is plenty of opportunity to be caught unaware by someone with nefarious intentions while working on a car. Here's what it looks like:





Since these photos were taken, I have purchased shirts one size up from the one in the above and it makes it that much easier to keep it concealed, especially when you button the shirt. The newer Dickies shirts are also a little longer, and offer good coverage while laying down on the ground, so that the end of your barrel isn't visible when you have your arms up over your head. Since you're new to CHL carry, I will say that it's easier to conceal than you think. I was really paranoid about people being able to see that I was carrying when I first started, and that was with a PA-63 (same size as a Bersa Thunder .380 or Walther PPK) carried IWB. I've since moved on to carrying a Hi-Power OWB, and am confident that it is quite well concealed.

NcongruNt, that's a nice looking owb holster, who's the maker? I carry a M&P 40 in a Crossbreed Qwikclip iwb, while it conceals nicely, I just hate having to buy larger pants.

avid wrote:NcongruNt, that's a nice looking owb holster, who's the maker? I carry a M&P 40 in a Crossbreed Qwikclip iwb, while it conceals nicely, I just hate having to buy larger pants.

It's a Galco Combat Master.

http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterG3.asp?Pr ... 6&GunID=23

It doesn't look like they make it for the M&P 40, but there's a similar one called the Concealable Belt Holster.

http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterG3.asp?Pr ... &GunID=329

"Oh yeah...as of now I "car carry" and I don't want to be without it. My pistol saved my bacon last week."

WOW- I read the copied story farther up the chain here that led to this discussion being posted. I'm with David, I wouldn't
go ANYWHERE in public without that weapon- especially now that you know the idiot who caused your trouble has your name
and by now knows your whole life via an internet search.

You can never be TOO certain if this guy (or his buddies) will decide to at some point exercise a little interest in revisiting this
issue- when you least expect it, or worse- when your family or friends least expect it. It could be that his reaction to seeing your
pistol come flying out of the glove-box made an instant believer out of him, if not a convert, but to rely on that for future personal
safety and peace of mind would be as insane as advocating this guy's unjust reaction to your accidentally tossing cones around.

I thought you handled yourself admirably- and in the face of one of the most unsettling situations. You kept your cool, you alerted
the authorities, you did so pro-actively, and you alerted your boss. NICE work....